CoachX Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 "Flyers center Kevin Hayes is the first player on the team to score four or more shorthanded goals in a season since Matt Read notched four during the 2013-14 season." He's in a class with Matt Read. He's doomed 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) The sarcasm detector is working..lol. Pleasantly surprised by Hayes. He's a glue guy that makes the team much tougher to play against. Seems like the kinda guy who would step it up in the playoffs. Dont know why the Jets benched him in the post season last year, but their loss . Poor use of a player and pro scouting on the Jets part. Play Little before Hayes...not in my section of the world! Edited February 6, 2020 by jammer2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, CoachX said: "Flyers center Kevin Hayes is the first player on the team to score four or more shorthanded goals in a season since Matt Read notched four during the 2013-14 season." He's in a class with Matt Read. He's doomed Trade Hayes! His value will never be higher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Im really liking this guy. Seems like a heart and soul player. Not saying he is worth the contract, yet, but he sure could be When I see him on breakaways, i feel confident he will score. I dont feel that same confidence with any other flyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan4ever Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Plus he's very entertaining when he's mic'd up!!! Very funny guy!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 15 hours ago, CoachX said: He's in a class with Matt Read. He's doomed when you put it like that...it kills my joy. Let's hope he pots another one soon so he can move past my favorite "that guy is, you know, ah...pretty good, he...uh can skate and his uh his shot is accurate" Flyers player from the last 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 12 hours ago, FD19372 said: Trade Hayes! His value will never be higher! Too bad he has a 3 year NMC and limited NTC after that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, CoachX said: When I see him on breakaways, I have to admit, and eat some crow here, that he's not as slow as I thought. He showed that on that last shortie. I do still wonder about his conditioning based on his history and what I saw of him with the Jets at the end of the season, but I will judge him on his play as a Flyer at this point. There's probably no way he can ever be "worth that contract," but he does a lot well and seems like a good "guy in the room." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Podein25 said: but he does a lot well and seems like a good "guy in the room." First Matt Read and than this???? Kiss of death 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, CoachX said: First Matt Read and than this???? Kiss of death In fairness to me, I did put it in quotes. Plus, you were the numb-skull that mentioned Matt Read! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Podein25 said: In fairness to me, I did put it in quotes. Plus, you were the numb-skull that mentioned Matt Read! I refer you to the quotes in my original post I fully accept numb-skull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, CoachX said: I refer you to the quotes in my original post Ok, I stand corrected, I missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 No way I have any personal knowledge of Matt Read other than reading someone else. Hell, I forgot he was Flyer. That could be an interesting thread: Flyer player you forgot existed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CoachX said: Flyer player you forgot existed Pavel Brendl Edited February 6, 2020 by Podein25 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 The same folks whining about Hayes are the same folks that said Coots was never anything more than a 3rd line defensive specialist b/c of his skating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 42 minutes ago, murraycraven said: The same folks whining about Hayes are the same folks that said Coots was never anything more than a 3rd line defensive specialist b/c of his skating. Well, maybe some. I defended Couturier ad nauseum. As for Hayes...I still hate that contract. I'll bet a lot more will as the years go on. Loving a player months into a SEVEN YEAR deal may not age as well as you'd like. Hope I'm proven wrong. Sure as heck wasn't on Bryz. Heard the same cheering this far into his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Podein25 said: I have to admit, and eat some crow here We know you love Canadian chicken... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, murraycraven said: The same folks whining about Hayes are the same folks that said Coots was never anything more than a 3rd line defensive specialist b/c of his skating. I didnt see anyone in this thread whining about Hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Well, maybe some. I defended Couturier ad nauseum. As for Hayes...I still hate that contract. I'll bet a lot more will as the years go on. Loving a player months into a SEVEN YEAR deal may not age as well as you'd like. Hope I'm proven wrong. Sure as heck wasn't on Bryz. Heard the same cheering this far into his contract. So everyone should remain silent until we have a few seasons to decide if he is playing good enough for some credit? I dont see anything wrong with acknowledging the guy for what he has done thus far. It doesn't mean he's the next Bobby Clarke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, CoachX said: It doesn't mean he's the next Bobby Clarke Next year he will be the next Bobby Boucher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, CoachX said: So everyone should remain silent until we have a few seasons to decide if he is playing good enough for some credit? I dont see anything wrong with acknowledging the guy for what he has done thus far. It doesn't mean he's the next Bobby Clarke I don't have a problem with the way Hayes is playing at all. But he's months into a 7 year deal. On pace for his usual 40-something points. At $7 million a year. If that's money well spent I don't know what to say. There's worse contracts out there, there's worse on the team... but that doesn't make his good. Again, i'm talking about his contract, not his play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 (edited) right now @flyercanuck I think this is good value (not his 9 million a year this year or whatever), but I think he's been exactly what the team needed in regard to a plays in all situations center. He seems to be digging it here, likes his teammates- keeps things loose, he's reminding me of Scott Hartnell type around the team but with better skating an more hockey versatility on the ice. The only thing he doesn't do is fight and I don't know where that fits in today's game. It's funny how we look to the past this guy was great 2 years ago or the future this dude won't be worth it in 4 years. I'm trying to stay in the moment. Right now the team is playing well, and they're pretty fun to watch not just the results but they compete all over the ice and play aggressively . Edited February 6, 2020 by mojo1917 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: We know you love Canadian chicken... And sheep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, mojo1917 said: right now @flyercanuck I think this is good value (not his 9 million a year this year or whatever), but I think he's been exactly what the team needed in regard to a plays in all situations center. He seems to be digging it here, likes his teammates- keeps things loose, he's reminding me of Scott Hartnell type around the team but with better skating an more hockey versatility on the ice. The only thing he doesn't do is fight and I don't know where that fits in today's game. It's funny how we look to the past this guy was great 2 years ago or the future this dude won't be worth it in 4 years. I'm trying to stay in the moment. Right now the team is playing well, and they're pretty fun to watch not just the results but they compete all over the ice and play aggressively . Again, I agree that I like his play. He seems like a good team guy at the present. I hope he keeps the enthusiasm throughout the contract. It's easy to be motivated short term when someone, in his words, overpays you to play there. I just don't see many of us loving this contract in a few years. I'm not a fan of it now...but if his game heads south in 3 years... There's also the issue of him getting comfortable on his team, like he did with his previous two, to the point of getting benched and traded. Except he'd be a lot harder to trade this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, flyercanuck said: It's easy to be motivated short term when someone, in his words, overpays you to play there. I just don't see many of us loving this contract in a few years. In other words like Giroux... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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