intheslot Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Vv brings more size and pk,and he plays from zone to zone just some grit that this team needs .. Should be a good game . anybody see G .???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilsFanDrew Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, brelic said: I'm guessing VV is in the lineup because he kills penalties and Cousins doesn't? When Schenn comes back, someone else sits. It will either be Lyubimov or VV, I'm guessing. Or both, and then reinsert Cousins. I'm guessing that is the logic but they still have plenty of forwards that kill penalties without VV. What they don't have plenty of is guys that have a scoring/playmaking presence in the bottom 6 and that is what Cousins can give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 my god VdV is awful. His PK "skills" are garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, brelic said: I'm guessing VV is in the lineup because he kills penalties and Cousins doesn't? When Schenn comes back, someone else sits. It will either be Lyubimov or VV, I'm guessing. Or both, and then reinsert Cousins. Cousisn can kill penalties. But even more importantly maybe is he DRAWS them VV doesn't....besides he couldn't put the puck in the ocean if he was standing in a boat...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: Cousisn can kill penalties. But even more importantly maybe is he DRAWS them VV doesn't....besides he couldn't put the puck in the ocean if he was standing in a boat...... Yeah I agree with you. I'm just trying to figure out why he's still in the lineup. I know there's a Hakstol connection, but you'd think at this level, that is less relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Podein25 said: I think people forget that Cousins is 23 and played out his Jr career (4 years). So why is he being scratched again? He's got 2 pts in 2 games is +1..... Can only play 3 3rd liners at a time. Belly is the only center and he seems to be working out right on the third right now. Presumably Raffl will be joining the third line as soon as Schenn returns. They liked Lyubimov in camp and preseason. He's just the easiest to move back and forth. Better to give him these minutes tonight before you have to send him back to the AHL. Presumably as well, they like him playing 15-20 minutes a night in Lehigh playing the role he'll play with the flyers eventually than playing 5-6 mins a night on the 4th line. So this is essentially the last chance to see him before that bitter pill must be swallowed so he gets the nod over Cousins who I expect back for the home opener. Things will really get interesting when Laughton returns from his injury next month especially if everyone else is still healthy and playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJgoal Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just now, King Knut said: Can only play 3 3rd liners at a time. Belly is the only center and he seems to be working out right on the third right now. Cousins centered the 3rd line from the time he was called up to the end of last season. He has never played wing (AFAIK at any level) before the last game of the preseason. Presumably Raffl will be joining the third line as soon as Schenn returns. They liked Lyubimov in camp and preseason. He's just the easiest to move back and forth. Better to give him these minutes tonight before you have to send him back to the AHL. Presumably as well, they like him playing 15-20 minutes a night in Lehigh playing the role he'll play with the flyers eventually than playing 5-6 mins a night on the 4th line. So this is essentially the last chance to see him before that bitter pill must be swallowed so he gets the nod over Cousins who I expect back for the home opener. Things will really get interesting when Laughton returns from his injury next month especially if everyone else is still healthy and playing well. I assume Laughton will end up in LV when he returns. When the forwards are healthy, I would like to see Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds Konecny - Couturier - Voracek Raffl - Cousins - Weise Bellemare - Gordon - Read Vandevelde With Laughton and Lyubimov back in Lehigh Valley. If you keep Lyubimov up, slide Bellemare to center the 4th and scratch Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Kane, Toews, Panarin, Keith all with 0 goals so far... same for Giroux, Voracek, Konecny and Gostisbehere. I got a feeling it'll be a 6-5 type game tonight. Voracek needs to score tonight. As a Flyers' fan he's my biggest concern; a lot rests on what kind of season he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheslot Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Vv brings more size and pk,and he plays from zone to zone just some grit that this team needs .. Should be a good game . anybody see G .???? tk gets his first 4 to 2 Flyers win . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Am i the only one who notices the interference the Hawks are getting away with in the neutral zone??? JFC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Wow Ivan dude impresses the hell out of me i must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Ugly.... Keep feeding Provorov minutes. Kid had one bad play there but whatever. I would also pull Nuevy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Should we trade Mason .... ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 18 minutes ago, hf101 said: Should we trade Mason .... ?? Yeah if Mcdud goes with him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Provorov is having a terrible night. H should never be out there agaisnt any team`s top line at this point in his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 9 hours ago, AJgoal said: At the same time, if the biggest issue we can come up with right now is why a 4th liner isn't scratched, that's pretty good. Is it? It's at worst a tie game after 3 periods if VandeVelde and Lybimov arent playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: Provorov is having a terrible night. H should never be out there agaisnt any team`s top line at this point in his career Well, Streit should never be out against the top line either. Combined it's a horrible situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, murraycraven said: Ugly.... Keep feeding Provorov minutes. Kid had one bad play there but whatever. I would also pull Nuevy.... Losing his edge doesn't bother me. How he responds and bounces back is what I'll judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, hf101 said: Should we trade Mason .... ?? Was Neuvy any better tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 2 hours ago, intheslot said: Vv brings more size and pk,and he plays from zone to zone just some grit that this team needs .. Should be a good game . anybody see G .???? tk gets his first 4 to 2 Flyers win . Putting Lyubimov and VandeVelde in this game made for a combined -4. Bring back Cousins. Bye bye to those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilsFanDrew Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 minute ago, King Knut said: Well, Streit should never be out against the top line either. Combined it's a horrible situation. Provorov could have been paired with Duncan Keith tonight and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. There is not a defenseman out there that could have covered up for Provorov's gaffes tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 hours ago, AJgoal said: When the forwards are healthy, I would like to see Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds Konecny - Couturier - Voracek Raffl - Cousins - Weise Bellemare - Gordon - Read Vandevelde With Laughton and Lyubimov back in Lehigh Valley. If you keep Lyubimov up, slide Bellemare to center the 4th and scratch Gordon. read is somehow a scoring machine he stays where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 4 hours ago, canoli said: Kane, Toews, Panarin, Keith all with 0 goals so far... same for Giroux, Voracek, Konecny and Gostisbehere. I got a feeling it'll be a 6-5 type game tonight. Voracek needs to score tonight. As a Flyers' fan he's my biggest concern; a lot rests on what kind of season he has. If Jake doesn't score much but his line mates continue to put up over a goal a game, I'm fine with it. Eventually they'll double coots and or Konex and Jake will get more room. Right now he's creating room for them just by being a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Knut Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 5 hours ago, AJgoal said: When the forwards are healthy, I would like to see Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds Konecny - Couturier - Voracek Raffl - Cousins - Weise Bellemare - Gordon - Read Vandevelde With Laughton and Lyubimov back in Lehigh Valley. If you keep Lyubimov up, slide Bellemare to center the 4th and scratch Gordon. Gordon and Weise both have to stay up to shave off Giroux's PK minutes. If Cousins can keep up his level of play at C, the third should be him, Raffl and Read. Read is a machine right now. Belly, Gordon Weise fourth line. Lyuby and Laughton phantoms for call ups, Vandy bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 8 hours ago, hf101 said: Should we trade Mason .... ?? No i guess we should trade Read!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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