Cheesesteak Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Any chance Hex started Neuvy in order to showcase him in front of the Kings who are in need of a goalie? Kinda odd that Mason didn't start the first game...any other reason Mason didn't start, I know he's starting tonight. hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 25 minutes ago, Cheesesteak said: Any chance Hex started Neuvy in order to showcase him in front of the Kings who are in need of a goalie? Kinda odd that Mason didn't start the first game...any other reason Mason didn't start, I know he's starting tonight. hmmmm I wondered the same thing (why Mason didn't start) And with Hextalls connection to the Kings, you never know. Good call Cheese. Of course, it's Haks decision...not Hex'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Either that or Hakstol is trying to split the games between them until someone shows who is hands down the better goalie. It is a nice problem to have, two goalies who don't suck and are actually from this planet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Agree with above. Thought same thing... Odd that Mason did not start. Very astute observation in regards to the Kings and their goalie situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Yeah but last i looked Flyers need a backup too. They don't have anyone proven yet behind Neuvy so if they have playoff aspiration themselves no way i do something like that till you know Stolarz or Lyons is ready.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Cheesesteak said: Any chance Hex started Neuvy in order to showcase him in front of the Kings who are in need of a goalie? Kinda odd that Mason didn't start the first game...any other reason Mason didn't start, I know he's starting tonight. hmmmm Very possible. Although it could just be data driven: Mase is a career .500 vs LA, Neuvy is 4-1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I don't know if the Flyers are in a position to trade a back- up goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: I don't know if the Flyers are in a position to trade a back- up goalie. The Flyers are building...everyone is available for trade if the price is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 35 minutes ago, Podein25 said: Very possible. Although it could just be data driven: Mase is a career .500 vs LA, Neuvy is 4-1-2. I read something along these lines yesterday. Or maybe it was on the NHL Network before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 10 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: The Flyers are building...everyone is available for trade if the price is right. They are building, yes. That doesn't mean, however, that they should trade away important pieces. Plus, I would imagine they would want to build on the last season's success, as relative as it as it may've been. Building doesn't need ot translate ot getting rid of valuable players. And Neuvy is as serviceable of a back-up as they come. He will walk right in and play as a starting goalie if Mason has another meltdown. He demonstrated that he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ8812 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 49 minutes ago, Podein25 said: Very possible. Although it could just be data driven: Mase is a career .500 vs LA, Neuvy is 4-1-2. Since joining the Flyers, Mason is 2-0-1 with a .973 Save PCT and 1 Shutout vs LA. His numbers vs. PHX are much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I don't know why it was Neuvirth over Mason for the opener, but I highly doubt it had anything to do with "showcasing" Neuvirth to the Kings. For sure, LA needs goaltending as the tandem of Zatkoff and Budaj simply isn't going to cut it in their division, much less the Western Conference as a whole. But the Kings aren't gonna get anything off the Flyers. Why? Because the Flyers would be silly at this point in time to trade away Neuvirth (unless they get back a bonafide NHL goalie in return) especially if Philly has any designs on competing and building a winning culture in that locker room again. Given how Mason has looked at times a bit inconsistent (not to mention injury prone lately), the Flyers are gonna need an actual big league goalie to take over. I think Mason and Neuvirth could see about equal time this year, with Mason, if healthy, perhaps getting a slight edge in games played. Should Mason require time on IR and Neuvirth is traded away (again, assuming no big league goalie comes back), who does Philly put in there? Stolarz? Lyon? Hart? I don't think so. Not if the Flyers intend on playing for the post season or don't mind risking wrecking a young goalie's confidence if the team hits a serious tailspin and that young goalie isn't quite NHL ready. No. I think Flyer fans can expect to see both Mason and Neuvirth get about equal time like I mentioned. Both are UFA's at the end of the year. Chances are one of them (possibly both) don't come back next year if a youngster in the minors is ready by then, or Philly acquires another goalie by other means...but in the meantime, I am pretty sure both Hextall and Hakstol would want to see if either current goalie would be worth bringing back. For the present, it's Mason and Neuvirth...and LA will have to look elsewhere (maybe Boston's Anton Khudobin or Detroit's Jimmy Howard) for their goalie needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 31 minutes ago, AlaskaFlyerFan said: I read something along these lines yesterday. Or maybe it was on the NHL Network before the game. As I've said before, I'm a friggin genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 54 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: The Flyers are building...everyone is available for trade if the price is right. Even Coots?! Traitor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 13 minutes ago, Podein25 said: As I've said before, I'm a friggin genius! Yes, it says so in my signature line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 38 minutes ago, RJ8812 said: Since joining the Flyers, Mason is 2-0-1 with a .973 Save PCT and 1 Shutout vs LA. His numbers vs. PHX are much worse Huh. Well I'm an idiot. I only looked at career splits. So what's your theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I hope not. Losing one or the other is inevitable but after the string of rejects Flyers' fans suffered through goaltending is finally one of the team's strengths. I want it to last. Bear with me for a second. Hakstol and the Flyers are gelling quickly. Goal scoring and special teams (particularly the PK) have been addressed. The defense...Provorov changes everything. Even without MDZ the pairs are solid provided Shultz holds his own. Manning has come a long way; I like him in the top 6 or as a 7th. My point is I believe with Mason / Neuvirth the Flyers are legitimate Cup contenders this year. The "huge holes" and gaps we talked about are filled. True, filled in part by 19-year old rookies but both are exceptionally talented and mature. I'm not basing this on last night alone. I always believed Couturier is a 60+ point player given the role and the line mates. Voracek is already miles ahead of where he was last year. Etc. etc. When BSchenn gets back the Flyers will be much tougher for the opposition than they were last year. The luxury to focus on just 1 line is gone. I hate selling one of our goalies now. The Flyers promise to be an exciting team this year and the one thing that'll ruin it is half-ass goaltending. Even if the Flyers aren't "legitimate Cup contenders" what they're building rests on reliable goaltending. So we get nothing for Neuvirth in July, so what? The confidence and success the team gains this year by keeping him and Mason more than compensates for that "loss." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 4 hours ago, RJ8812 said: Since joining the Flyers, Mason is 2-0-1 with a .973 Save PCT and 1 Shutout vs LA. His numbers vs. PHX are much worse Yeah he has never beaten the Yotes IIRC.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 5 hours ago, canoli said: My point is I believe with Mason / Neuvirth the Flyers are legitimate Cup contenders this year. Let' snot get carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 9 hours ago, Cheesesteak said: Any chance Hex started Neuvy in order to showcase him in front of the Kings who are in need of a goalie? Kinda odd that Mason didn't start the first game...any other reason Mason didn't start, I know he's starting tonight. hmmmm No. Do you trust Mason to carry the load and play more than 55-60 games this season? I sure as hell don't. I think they should platoon Neuvy and Mase through the entire season, then see who plays better down the stretch, and start whoever that guy is in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Oh, and I don't trust who would play behind Mase to be the backup, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoli Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 20 hours ago, Mad Dog said: Let' snot get carried away. Sure it's a generous way of looking at the Flyers right now but I don't think it's so farfetched. What's not to like about their chances? EDIT: never mind I guess I got a little excited watching them beat LA. Last night in Phoenix - partly the effects of travel and <24 hrs back-to-back games - they didn't have near the snap and drive they had in LA. So if they're not "legit Cup contenders" this year the Flyers are a lot closer now that the biggest holes have been addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Last night game versus the Yotes is a perfect example of why they still need Neuvy. Mason is so inconsistent he may be the one who gets traded to L.A.........just saying last night wasn't ALL his fault but he didn't not have a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: .just saying last night wasn't ALL his fault but he didn't not have a great game. He didn't not have a great game? So he had a great game? I'm confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, flyercanuck said: He didn't not have a great game? So he had a great game? I'm confused. I'll try typing slooooower for you. He (meaning Mason the guy between the pipes last night #35) didn't as in did not, have a great game last night. Capiche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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