Polaris922 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Our Flyers friends will try to discredit this of course... But kudos to the 'Burgh.http://wallethub.com/edu/best-worst-cities-for-hockey-fans/13283/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 @Polaris922 I couldn't get the link to open. I see fans on it so I assume it's about attendance.... I think the real test will be when Crosby and Malkin are gone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 @Polaris922 Kind of hard to make a fair comparison. They are comparing NHL vs. AHL vs. College Hockey Towns. Need to compare apples to apples and oranges to organges. I looked at the Metrics involved and you can make statistics say anything you want. Kudos to Pittsburgh then. I have never been to a game there so I cannot comment. Getting in and out of Wells Fargo can be a royal PIA...so yeah I can see were that would have a (-) metric. Once inside, the arena is clean and modern with lots of good food. Here are the Metrics used to evaluate the process. MethodologyTo find the best and worst cities for professional- and college-hockey fans, WalletHub analyzed 74 of the most populated U.S. cities across two equally weighted key dimensions, including “Teams & Performance” and “Costs & Fan Engagement.” We then identified 18 relevant metrics, which are listed below with their corresponding weights. For our sample, we chose cities with at least one college hockey or professional hockey team.Teams & Performance – Total Weight = 5Number of NHL Hockey Teams: Full WeightNumber of NCAA Division I Hockey Teams: Half WeightPerformance Level of NHL Team (Number of Wins Divided by Total Games Played): Full WeightNote: Past three seasons’ average was used for this calculation.Performance Level of NCAA Division I Hockey Team(s) (Number of Wins Divided by Total Games Played): Half WeightNote: Past three seasons’ average was used for this calculation.Number of NHL Championship Wins: Full WeightNumber of NCAA Division I Hockey Championship Wins: Half WeightNumber of NHL Division Championship Wins: Half WeightNumber of NCAA Division I Conference Regular-Season Championship Wins: Quarter WeightFranchise Value (Team Estimated Value in $Million): Half WeightNote: For NHL teams onlyCosts & Fan Engagement – Total Weight = 5Average Ticket Price for an NHL Game: Full WeightMinimum Season Ticket Price for an NCAA Division I Hockey Game: Half WeightNumber of Sports Bars per100,000 Residents: Half WeightFriendliness & Engagement of NHL Fans (Number of Twitter Followers Plus Number of Facebook “Likes” per Capita): Full WeightFriendliness & Engagement of NCAA Division I Hockey Fans (Number of Twitter Followers Plus Number of Facebook “Likes” per Capita): Half WeightStadium Accessibility of NHL Arenas (Stadium Capacity Divided by City Population): Half WeightStadium Accessibility of College Hockey Arenas (Stadium Capacity Divided by City Population): Quarter WeightAttendance (Average Home-Fan Attendance Divided by Arena Capacity): Half WeightNote: For NHL teams onlyViewership Rate: Half WeightNote: For NHL teams only Going to an AHL game vs a NHL game is vastly different experience. You really cannot compare the two against each other. Players are usually more accessible, the prices are cheaper and the overall experience is geared to the fan. Not saying that does not happen at the NHL level, but players are not as accessible and prices are generally way more expensive. Attendance wise, the Pens are ranked neck and neck. Now if the Pens overall game day experience is better than the Flyers and therefore generates more Facebook likes, then so be it. I get what the group was trying to do, but I think their Methodoligy is flawed. I'm not going to argue who has the better fans. Recently both team fan bases are very knowledgeable about their teams. Yeah the arguement can be made the team had one foot out of Pittsburgh before Crosby / Malkin arrived on the scene. IMO fans of all NHL teams are pretty equal, although Florida had horrible attendance last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Yeah I think it's about hockey in general, not jut the NHL franchises. We've been pretty blessed of late with RMU's surging in NCAA play. Besides @pilldoc ... Forbes Magazine already gave us the best NHL fans crown . LolI agree though that when Crosby goes they had better have a way to stay competitive or it will slowly slide back to bad days depths. I think that's more a reflection of a small market team than anything else. We don't have 6 million fans in our fanbase to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TropicalFruitGirl26 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Yeah I think it's about hockey in general, not jut the NHL franchises. We've been pretty blessed of late with RMU's surging in NCAA play.Besides @pilldoc ... Forbes Magazine already gave us the best NHL fans crown . LolI agree though that when Crosby goes they had better have a way to stay competitive or it will slowly slide back to bad days depths. I think that's more a reflection of a small market team than anything else. We don't have 6 million fans in our fanbase to start with. Yea....not sure Pit fans can do another 5 or 6 years of Rico Fata, Ryan Vandenbussch, Brian Holzinger, or Sebastian Caron, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Yea....not sure Pit fans can do another 5 or 6 years of Rico Fata, Ryan Vandenbussch, Brian Holzinger, or Sebastian Caron, eh? I would like to think the salary cap era will prevent that from returning, especially with the Pens being under better management. The previous financial issues and weak teams were a result of management far more than attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yave1964 Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 But what aboutFleury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 But what aboutFleury?Couldn't help yourself could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B21 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 But what aboutFleury? He's the root of all the Pens' problems. Clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 so you are bragging that Pitt offers hockey fans the best deals? Has it gotten that bad in western PA? So for all of you diehard and rookie fans, WalletHub crunched the numbers to find which U.S. cities offer the best deals for hockey enthusiasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 so you are bragging that Pitt offers hockey fans the best deals? Has it gotten that bad in western PA? So for all of you diehard and rookie fans, WalletHub crunched the numbers to find which U.S. cities offer the best deals for hockey enthusiasts. They're playing NCAA tournament games here, youth hockey is at an all time high, and the Pens are playoff bound every year with at least hopes of a decent run.. It's a great time to be a hockey fan in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 They're playing NCAA tournament games here, youth hockey is at an all time high, and the Pens are playoff bound every year with at least hopes of a decent run.. It's a great time to be a hockey fan in Pittsburgh. I just think it is funny that is all... like you won a major award! Congrats The last time my Teams were in Pitt there was a lot of angst towards the Penguins b/c they were retracting their name from the youth travel team out there - The Jr Pens --- is that still the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I just think it is funny that is all... like you won a major award! Congrats The last time my Teams were in Pitt there was a lot of angst towards the Penguins b/c they were retracting their name from the youth travel team out there - The Jr Pens --- is that still the case? It's not about any award, just nice to be recognized as a city for the growing involvement in hockey.The Pens Jr teams were shut down so that the Pens could take greater control of how the Pens name was being used. They instead created the Pens Elite teams which are all run and supported with Pens money. They also equip a lot of underprivileged kids on those teams as well, so it was a good thing in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfondajane Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 But what aboutFleury?I would say goodbye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notfondajane Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 He's the root of all the Pens' problems. Clearly.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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