hf101 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 @jammer2 thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I added an IR rule. Edit: IR - In case of injury which removes a player from the remainder of the tournament we will allow 1 IR spot per team. You must choose a player from the same Olympic team and only his points moving forward will be added to the points of the player injured. Thus @jammer2 Zetterberg is out of the tournament. His 1 pt from the first game will count. Pick another forward from Sweden not owned by another member's team and his scores moving forward will count for your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 @Hockey Junkie I guess we will see, None of my forwards scored today. I'm thinking Carter wasn't one of my better picks. :wacko: Then again. Carter with the Hattie today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut722 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Thus @jammer2 Zetterberg is out of the tournament. His 1 pt from the first game will count. Pick another forward from Sweden not owned by another member's team and his scores moving forward will count for your team. Do it, @jammer2! Pick Alfie! You know you want to! Now if there were someway for me to make sure that Jonathan Quick gets hurt so Ryan Miller would have to take the nets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut722 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 @hf101 Helluva game for Carter. Although it's only Austria.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut722 Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 @Hockey Junkie He's got a great team. The Russia/USA game will tell if my made a good choice picking Datsyuk despite the injury. If he's hurt, let's hope they put him on IR, so @hf101 can switch him out for Vladdy Teresenko for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 Surprised no one chose Hiller. Two shut outs thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I wish I had more time to chose my defense as I would toss those two into the recycle bin if I could. ? You chose Orpik prior to my pick of Shattenkirk. I thought you were also a fan of the Blues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 FYI - The Boxscore results give Radulov a goal for the Shootout win. I didn't add it to @radoran 's team. Does anyone in our OFL feel that the winning goal in a shootout should count in our scoring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 @hf101 I don't think shoot out goals should count. I view them as a separate entity apart from the game. Plus, with these rules having one player shoot multiple times, it might give an unfair advantage for a guy getting multiple chances at the winning goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 @hf101 I don't think shoot out goals should count. I view them as a separate entity apart from the game. Plus, with these rules having one player shoot multiple times, it might give an unfair advantage for a guy getting multiple chances at the winning goal.I agree with @jammer2. IMO, I don't think SO goals should count with the reasons listed above. SO goals don't count in regular NHL stats. They have there own entity. Also, just curious, to those who play regular fantasy hockey games, how do you treat goals scored in the shootout. I have googled for answers and have seen everything from the goals do not count to those leagues where the goals do count, but at a lower point value. I say no they should not count. Besides, once the regular NHL Playoffs begin it becomes a mute point anyway. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 @Hockey Junkie Calm down Rick and have a drink of rum...they are not being counted. It was only a suggestion made by someone. (they were thinking outside the box) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 I agree with @jammer2. IMO, I don't think SO goals should count with the reasons listed above. SO goals don't count in regular NHL stats. They have there own entity. Also, just curious, to those who play regular fantasy hockey games, how do you treat goals scored in the shootout. I have googled for answers and have seen everything from the goals do not count to those leagues where the goals do count, but at a lower point value. I say no they should not count. Besides, once the regular NHL Playoffs begin it becomes a mute point anyway. Just my 2 cents. Typically the shoot-out goals do not count in the regular stats in NHL games, but they count in a separate set of stat for shootouts and are not a part of fantasy league scoring that I've been a part of. Why I initiated the question is because TSN and probably the Olympic official boxcore is scoring the winning goal in a shootout as a goal in favor of that players stats. So for example Doughty gets a Goal added to his stats for an OT goal the same as Radulov gets one for the shootout. Thus it may be possible that for the Olympic's stats a winning goal in the shootout is = to a winning goal in OT. http://www.tsn.ca/mens_world/schedule/ I just wanted to make sure everyone is on the same page with scoring an OT goal counting for player (x) and am questioning if we should be counting the winning shootout goal for player (y) as in line with the boxscore stats given by the Olympics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 @hf101 ah I did not know they were doing that. thanks for your thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Shootout goals should not count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Shootout goals should not count. Plus, I did not draft taking that into account, I would have bumped up Towes a few notches if I thought we were counting SO goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 @AlaskaFlyerFan @jammer2 and everyone else. At this point I doubt we are counting the winning Shoot out goal in our league. It is only the winning SO goal that is being collected in the Olympic box score stats and the only WSOG brought up for discussion. Thus at this point there is only one SO game winning goal that affects our league thus far, and that is Radulov's winning goal against Slovakia. I brought this up for discussion mainly to point out that Radulov's or other shoot out winners in the future final stats will not match the final Olympic tabulations. And thus so far only @radoran 's team is affected by the one point. The discussion can also be carried a step farther as ----- Varlamov, got the Win for the shootout thus @Hockey Junkie 's team received 3 points. Quick also got 2pts for a SO win. If we say the game winning goal in a shootout doesn't count for the player then why are we counting points for the winning goalie in a Shoot Out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 @hf101 Ahhh, good point. Somehow it seems more acceptable to let the goalie's profit off a shoot out win. Maybe I feel that way cause I'm used to goalies getting the win in fantasy if they win the shoot out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 If we say the game winning goal in a shootout doesn't count for the player then why are we counting points for the winning goalie in a Shoot Out? @hf101,I think the goalie should get credit for the Shootout win. I don't have a great reason other than the goalie played the entire game. I would take it one step further and give both goalies credit for a shutout if the game ends in a 0-0 tie before the shoot out. That happened in the Russia-Slovakia game yesterday. They score shutouts for both goalies like that in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 @hf101,I think the goalie should get credit for the Shootout win. I don't have a great reason other than the goalie played the entire game. I would take it one step further and give both goalies credit for a shutout if the game ends in a 0-0 tie before the shoot out. That happened in the Russia-Slovakia game yesterday. They score shutouts for both goalies like that in the NHL. I agree with all of that. We think the same way in regards to the shoot out and who should be rewarded for what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Are shootouts done in the medal round? Or can there be one? Yes OVERTIME During the preliminary round, tied games go to a four-on-four five-minute sudden-death overtime, as in the N.H.L. In the medal round until the gold medal game, overtime is played five on five for 10 minutes. In the gold medal game, the overtime is five on five for 20 minutes. In each case, if overtime does not break the tie, the game goes to a shootout. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/12/sports/olympics/olympic-hockey-is-the-same-except-for-this-and-that.html?_r=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut722 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Then if they are smart, go with Ryan Miller. He is the best at SO's I would certainly support that (since he's on my team) I think if we give a point to the game-winning shoot out player, we should not give shutout points to the losing goaltender (in the case of the RUS-SLO game, Varlamov would get the shutout points and Radulov would get the goal point). What about if an extra point was awarded to the game-winning goal in any situation (shoot-out among them). Makes it very interesting. Of course the realist in me wants to know what is going to be less hassle on @hf101 for scorekeeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I guess we have to catch Mr Alaska. He has at least two Russians, Ovechkin among them I believe. Should Russia lose he may be in trouble.I only have one Russian. Getzlov is Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 For Injured Tavares on the IR, I'm choosing Corey Perry. But I'd be happiest if he'll save his points for the Bronze medal game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 @Hockey Junkie I'd love to do this in the playoffs, but a largely expanded version. Would be fun, and yes, you can still take Miller if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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