murraycraven Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Can anyone explain to me why Kimmo is on the first PP unit? Why is Streit not playing the point? I really don't get it... Better skater... Way better shot and a better passer. It makes not sense to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Can't tell you, @murraycraven. Makes no sense to me either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 It drives me nuts rux... I don't get it. STREIT has a great shot and can skate into the play... Just makes no sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedZep Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Kimmo is a long time Flyer, maybe Streit needs to earn his marks first? I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 (edited) 44 has to be on the first unit, it's what Ed wants!Remember Snider hates change! Edited October 17, 2013 by Samifan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I have to figure it's out of deference to the guy who has been here. That is extremely weak, but it's all I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Gus is playing well again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Kimmo is a long time Flyer, maybe Streit needs to earn his marks first? I don't know.I suspect that's the case. As much as I love Kimmo, Streit is the better option at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 Steit is so much better on the PP I just have a tough time wathcing it... Sami... keep up the one liners and I am going to run out of signature lines! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krasy Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Can anyone explain to me why Kimmo is on the first PP unit? Why is Streit not playing the point? I really don't get it... Better skater... Way better shot and a better passer. It makes not sense to me... Another one - why Schenn gets 15 min a game and Coburn 24+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Sami... keep up the one liners and I am going to run out of signature lines! LOL! @MC-just trying to provide a little sunshine on this gloomy season, glad you're enjoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Another one - why Schenn gets 15 min a game and Coburn 24+ Oooh! Oooh! Oh, I got nothing. A better question than why Coburn gets 24+ minutes is why does Coburn dress at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The best news of the night, or one of the brightspots as we all have been saying, is Kimmo being hurt. He flat out cannot play anymore. Luke Schenn needs to go to. He just stands around and waits for the puck to come to him. Gus looks like a child among men. He was pushed off the puck and manhandled so many times last night it's not even funny. It's a shame that Mason is playing well and they cannot even do **** to put up points. Major shake will happen before next weeks game. L. Schenn should be one of the names that goes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraycraven Posted October 18, 2013 Author Share Posted October 18, 2013 There not a single member of this Team right now that I would not consider in a trade. From G to Schenn to Grossman to Rinaldo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The thing about making major trades this early in the season is finding trading partners that are 1) willing to shake up their own lineup and 2) have the cap ability to do it. Flyers have their own problem trading due to cap issues, and I would imagine smarter clubs (all 29 of them) would be cautious due to guarding against possible injury(ies) later in the season. You might see A player shipped out and someone brought in, but I don't expect it to be anything major. I also don't expect it to be anything any of us will end up being happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aziz Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) The thing about making major trades this early in the season is finding trading partners that are 1) willing to shake up their own lineup and 2) have the cap ability to do it. the other thing is: what is the point? i don't mean that in a cynical they-shouldn't-do-it kind of way, but what would the flyers be trying to accomplish with trades right now? win games soon? the average age of the skaters last night was 26.7 y/o. is it about getting even younger? people keep talking about rebuild, but a (very) bad stretch has them looking for mid-season trades to...what? presumably it is to solve a problem, but what problem? do we want them to fix what they have, or do we want them to not pay so much attention to the immediate, and instead look down the road? if the latter, why do anything at all right now? 10 skaters last night 25 or younger, 11 players including mason. what is it people want to change? luke schenn is a great sums-it-up of the issue. people are fine with the theory of rebuild, the theory of getting kids on the ice and playing, understanding they aren't necessarily going to be all that great right now. people are ok with the idea of patience, but...when presented with a 23 yearold whose game is incomplete and decidedly immature, he is on the shortlist of players to be moved. which is it, guys? youth and patience, or immediate results? what would you want to accomplish with a trade? Edited October 18, 2013 by aziz 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 the other thing is: what is the point? Exactly! Not just the "other" thing. For me, that's the most "to the point" thing. Terrific post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krasy Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 (edited) The best news of the night, or one of the brightspots as we all have been saying, is Kimmo being hurt. He flat out cannot play anymore. Luke Schenn needs to go to. He just stands around and waits for the puck to come to him. Gus looks like a child among men. He was pushed off the puck and manhandled so many times last night it's not even funny. It's a shame that Mason is playing well and they cannot even do **** to put up points. Major shake will happen before next weeks game. L. Schenn should be one of the names that goes out. I hope you realize that Meszaros will take his place. Edited October 18, 2013 by krasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I hope you realize that this means Meszaros will take his place. Hal Gill here we come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertmega Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 @krasy not necessarily. Oliver Lauridsen may see the big time. This gives the opportunity to move Gus into Timonen's role. I truly think that Meszaros is in the dog house and probably won't see the light of day until he is playing for another club. Don't forget they still have Gill in the cupboard. Not that he is the savior, but it's something. Timo would be effective as a 3rd pairing. Nothing more. He has nothing left in the tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 imo would be effective as a 3rd pairing. Nothing more. He has nothing left in the tank. His play has dropped off like a 30 year old NFL running back, he was fine and then... nothing, no burst, unable to use his brains to cover for the lack of a burst. wow, the decline wasn't steady it was off a cliff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 @Bertmega@mojo1917I'd like to state for the record that I do not have bertmega's password. Having said that, I think outsiders could see Timonen trailing off last season. I'm almost sorry to hear its worse this year. I liked the guy in his prime... Still like him actually. But all things end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I hope you realize that Meszaros will take his place.In fine with that. If he returns hungry, that could really help the Flyers. Otherwise, his Flyers career is done next summer at the latest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 @Polaris922 I would be fine if his play was the same as last year's, you can reduce his minutes , put him in situations where he can succeed if he's playing to last year's level. but wow, he's done some god awful stupid **** this year, been out skated by average guys even before last nights, keystone cops second period. the spirit is willing the body not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 @Polaris922 I would be fine if his play was the same as last year's, you can reduce his minutes , put him in situations where he can succeed if he's playing to last year's level. but wow, he's done some god awful stupid **** this year, been out skated by average guys even before last nights, keystone cops second period.the spirit is willing the body not so much.. Thanks to coaching, I was forced to listen to the game on radio, and really only the end of the second and then third periods. I did see the first ten minutes of the first as well. It sounded like the Flyers really pressed in the third and played well. Was that right? The first period the Pens seemed to have free reign, not counting the power plays. And yes I saw the thread some guys were posting blaming the officials as usual, but the Pens just looked dominant to me. It sure sounded like the Flyers returned the favor for most of the third though. If that's the case... What changed? I know Timonen was out by then... So was it Streit stepping up into the #1 role? Or did things just seem to click all of the sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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