flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 With yet another debacle under our belts the Flyers now sit 3rd last in the entire NHL. That puts us in MacKinnon/Drouin range. I know most of us are jonesin for Jones, but I really don't see us catching Florida nor winning a lottery. Then again, Bryz had a good first period last night so stranger things have happened. Anyway, i'd be happy with a top 5 pick. Keep up the good work boys! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 We're actually 4th, behind Calgary (fewer wins). But, yeah, I really hope we can snag a nice prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 just not another defensive minded center... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @brelicRight. I just took a quick glance at NHL.com and they have us 3rd from the bottom, tied with Calgary in points. We have more wins, but they have a game in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @ctid Have you seen Drouin or MacKinnon play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 nope, I live in Denmark, so do not get exposure to the canadian junior leagues. But from what I gather they are projected to be offensive 1st line guys.My point was, I just hope Flyers don't walk away with another two-way center with limited offensive potential, as we all know we don't need more of those guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @ctidPretty sure if we pick in the top 5-6 we'll either get a defenceman or a pretty damn good forward.MacKinnon is #22 (in honor of Flyers draft pick Freddy Cabana who billeted at MacKinnons house)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAjifZN0FX8Drouin is #27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @flyercanuckThanks for those vids.they both can skate, sick hands (especially Drouin), and MacKinnon can hit. Both of them look like extremely good picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @ctid Do you see Barkov play at all? He seems like a big talented kid who can skate, any inside info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 if we can't have Jones...I want either one of these guys.....(looking for vids on them)7. Darnell Nurse, D, Sault Ste. Marie, OHL: Same story with Nurse. His game continued to improve over the last six weeks, but there was no room to move him up. His offensive reads impressed me in two recent viewings moreso than they did earlier in the year. You can see his confidence growing. Huge upside with this kid. (PR: 7) 8. Ryan Pulock: D, Brandon, WHL: His consistency waned a bit down the stretch, but playing through a wrist injury could account for that. Heavy shot and solid passing skills paint him as a future power play QB. Everyone raves about his character. (PR: 8) 21. Nikita Zadorov, D, London, OHL: I know there are teams who like him a lot better than this, but taking a defensive defenseman too high seems like a mismanagement of an asset. What Zadorov brings is a massive (6-foot-5, 229-pound) frame, a nasty disposition and the potential to become a dominating shutdown presence. (PR: 16) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @flyercanuckWow. Both have some crazy hands. Drouin has similarities to Giroux from what I saw. Great balance and thinks a step ahead. If I'm GM and Drouin is still available, I would pick him vs MacKinnon just for the fact that Drouin is a LW and MacKinnon is a C.Drouin - G - Jake line would be 'crazy hands'.Flyers need to get another top 7-9 pick somehow. Currently the first round picks (without the lottery) are:1) Panthers2) Avalanche3) Lightning4) Flyers5) Flames6) Oilers7) Sabres8) Coyotes9) Islanders10) Capitals11) Blue JacketsHomer should be on the phone with the Flames, Oilers and especially the Sabres trying to find out what it will take to get their 1st.Flyers currently have the following draft picks in the first 3 rounds:First round - #4Second round - #34Third round - #64 - Because the Flyers didn't make the playoffs, the conditional 3rd for Gagne from LA will not be transferred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @pilldocI like Nurse at the #5 pick, but not before. I'm not taking Pulock anywhere near that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 @Digityman It would be nice to get one of the forwards AND Jones or Nurse. But I'm guessing that is a pipe dream. The Oilers might be willing to trade their first for a defenceman, but that would be kind of defeating the purpose, and I don't think we have one (Coburn???+) that would entice them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) I would pick him vs MacKinnon just for the fact that Drouin is a LW and MacKinnon is a C.Drouin was a center until he joined his junior team where they moved him to wing alongside MacKinnon. I could see him ending up at center in the NHL, his hands and creativity are just off the charts.I would be extremely happy to get Nurse though... "Nursin' for Nurse"? Edited March 27, 2013 by JackStraw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @DigitymanIt would be nice to get one of the forwards AND Jones or Nurse. But I'm guessing that is a pipe dream. The Oilers might be willing to trade their first for a defenceman, but that would be kind of defeating the purpose, and I don't think we have one (Coburn???+) that would entice them.What about Meszaros and our 1st next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brelic Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 If we get the first pick overall, do you definitely go for Jones? Or do you consider MacKinnon (who some say is a generational talent in the Crosby mold)? Remember the Hedman/Tavares debate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 If we get the first pick overall, do you definitely go for Jones? Or do you consider MacKinnon (who some say is a generational talent in the Crosby mold)?Remember the Hedman/Tavares debate?I definitely go for Jones. The only comparisons I've seen between Crosby and MacKinnon state that as good as MacKinnon is, he's not in Crosby's class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedZep Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 The only comparisons I've seen between Crosby and MacKinnon state that as good as MacKinnon is, he's not in Crosby's class.You mean to say that MacKinnin has class, and has never punched anyone in the taint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStraw Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 You mean to say that MacKinnin has class, and has never punched anyone in the taint.Well, there's that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have Season Tickets for the Halifax Mooseheads and have watched MacKinnon and Drouin over the last two seasons. I would take Drouin over MacKinnon. That is my personal preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Drouin was a center until he joined his junior team where they moved him to wing alongside MacKinnon. I could see him ending up at center in the NHL....Did not know that, thanks. I'd like to see Nurse also, if obviously the Flyers don't get the #1 pick in Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have Season Tickets for the Halifax Mooseheads and have watched MacKinnon and Drouin over the last two seasons. I would take Drouin over MacKinnon. That is my personal preference.Can you explain why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 What about Meszaros and our 1st next year?That would work for me. I personally don't mind Meszaros but if it meant getting another top 10 pick, I'd be all for it.This draft is deep, especially 1-10. There's not much I wouldn't trade to get 2 picks in the top 10 if I were GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 (edited) What about Meszaros and our 1st next year?Yiikes! Next year is Ekblads draft. He plays on our local junior A team. He's the size of Jones (Jones is 2 1/2 years older) has one of the highest hockey IQs I've ever seen in a junior and is the best defenceman on one of the top OHL teams. Put it this way, Jones wasn't even playing junior at Ekblads age. I'd take Ekblad over any player in this draft, and I sure wouldn't trade Mez AND a chance to snag him.Don't think MacKinnon is in Crosbys class. And I'd say Drouin and him are pretty close talent-wise. MacKinnon is a better skater, Drouin has better hands. Edited March 27, 2013 by flyercanuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimKerrFan12 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 @Digityman MacKinnon is a stronger skater and stronger overall physically, but he tries to do too much and I find he loses the puck trying to make fancy moves. That could be an age thing and a developmental thing. Drouin makes those moves all the time. It is like the game is in slow motion for him. He has a bit of a mean competitiveness streak and doesn't like losing the puck and will fight to get it back. It is just ridiculous what he does with the puck and how he moves around other players. He has some of the sickest puck control skills I have seen from anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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