AndyS Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 No heart. No compete. No nothing.Blow it up & try to make this team worth watching next season & beyond.List of players to get rid of:1. Briere2. Bryz3. Hartnell4. Kimmo5. . . . .Feel free to add to this list.The only untouchables, IMO, are Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Coutourier, Grossmann & Coburn.I can't stomach any more of this crap hockey. This is NOT Flyers hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmdodgesrt4 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I'll remove hartnell. Add Gus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmdodgesrt4 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Did I hear Seth jones?! No wait it was just the wind blowing through our goaltending. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamflyers Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I was never on the trade Briere train, but at this point, I'm ready to see what he might be worth at the trade deadline. Bottom line is this team should be a seller at the deadline and I agree with your list except for Hartnell. I don't want to see Briere go because of a lack of effort or heart. I just think the guy has lost a step and while he is a clutch playoff performer, what good is that if you don't make the playoffs? I have to think his past playoff performances will yield some value to a team looking to make a run. And Kimmo should yield similar value to a team looking for a good vet d man to make a run. And by all means, buy out Bryz! I appreciate his effort and his desire to succeed, but he is not th shut down goalie that they paid for. He rarely steals games, and this team needs a guy who can steal a game now and then. Maybe if the system was right, he would do better here, but they should not build a team around him. Wouldn't it be nice if just once in this century that they could draft a good goalie AND stick with him until he is ready to take the reins instead of trading him away for the flavor of the month? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I was never on the trade Briere train, but at this point, I'm ready to see what he might be worth at the trade deadline. Bottom line is this team should be a seller at the deadline and I agree with your list except for Hartnell. I don't want to see Briere go because of a lack of effort or heart. I just think the guy has lost a step and while he is a clutch playoff performer, what good is that if you don't make the playoffs? I have to think his past playoff performances will yield some value to a team looking to make a run. And Kimmo should yield similar value to a team looking for a good vet d man to make a run. . . .WIth the whole cap reduction coming, I don't think that your going to be able to find any willing to pick him up, period. $6.5M/year for Briere for another two seasons? That was questionable when the deal was first made, now its unthinkable. I think buyout is what is going to happen with Briere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 WIth the whole cap reduction coming, I don't think that your going to be able to find any willing to pick him up, period. $6.5M/year for Briere for another two seasons? That was questionable when the deal was first made, now its unthinkable. I think buyout is what is going to happen with Briere.I disagree. There are teams struggling to get to the cap floor that need his cap hit. Actuall dollars is $3mm next year and $2mm in 2015-16. Whether the Flyers can get something good in return is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caluso Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 why would Couturier be untouchable?i know he's young, but he is having an absolutely horrible year: listless, passive, lazy and he is a terribly slow skater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nossagog Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I disagree. There are teams struggling to get to the cap floor that need his cap hit. Actuall dollars is $3mm next year and $2mm in 2015-16.Whether the Flyers can get something good in return is another story.But Briere has a no movement clause I believe, so he'd have to agree to go to a team struggling to get to the cap. Which basically means a team that will not be competing for the cup. Can't see him doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 I am disgusted I wasted this afternoon to watch this. This is the worst Flyers team since the disaster of the 2006-2007 season. I am not even sure if *that* team was actually worse. At this point I really think their best shot is to try to move as much salary as I can and finish low enough on the standings to secure a good draft pick. With this loser of a GM we have, he will find a way to screw this all up… God what a waste…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 But Briere has a no movement clause I believe, so he'd have to agree to go to a team struggling to get to the cap. Which basically means a team that will not be competing for the cup. Can't see him doing that.St Louis, Anaheim, Dallas, Carolina, Nashville, and Ottawa all say hello!! Phoenix and Nashville are bubble teams right now but the other teams have lots of cap space and are firmly entrenched in a playoff position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Seriously, this is all Bryz's fault. He singlehandedly drains the confidence from the skaters faces with horrible goals against. Did you see Hartnell look back at him after one of the Bs goals? Yeah, that matters.Bryz and Briere would be my priorities in that order. I don't care if nothing comes back for Bryz, and I'd like something for Briere, but he needs to go too. Laziness is contagious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcflyer Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 @ AndyI would take Hartnell off, this would be my list:Knuble - ufaGagnge- ufaTimonen- b/oFedetenko- ufaShelley- ufaPronger retirestrade Briere @ the deadline, he would move to a contender at his ageI hesitate to put Bryzgalov on there due to lack of depth at that position, maybe if we can get Backstrom from Minny, then yeah buy him out.All the vets have lost a step this year, no use making a trade to make the p/o's, do all these buyouts and trades at the end of the year, except Briere. Go for the lottery pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 WIth the whole cap reduction coming, I don't think that your going to be able to find any willing to pick him up, period. $6.5M/year for Briere for another two seasons? That was questionable when the deal was first made, now its unthinkable. I think buyout is what is going to happen with Briere.And add Timmonen's $6 mill year for a #5 defenseman? Not a trade out there since Howson left... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorado_al Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'd keep Harts, just for comic relief.... but dump Coburn. Too many times he looks like a deer caught in the headlights and plays like it. He's so afraid of $crewing up, he does nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 @colorado_al Coburn is having a bad year. He's also one of our better defencemen. I don't think sell low buy high works very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 I'll play:Trade for picks, let go or buyout:KnubleTimonenBriereBryz (Buyout)Leighton (put down forever)BoucherKeep:GirouxReadB. SchennSimmondsTalbotTye McGinn (he can replace Hartnell in time)VoracekGagne (UFA next year - keep him)Coburn (bad year, good player)GrossmanNMeszarosL. SchennIf the right deal comes along:Trade one of Couts or Laughton. The other plays 3rd line center next year.Hartnell if he accepts a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 why would Couturier be untouchable?i know he's young, but he is having an absolutely horrible year: listless, passive, lazy and he is a terribly slow skater.This is the same thing being said about JVR last season. Would you take him back right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeZel25 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 No heart. No compete. No nothing.Blow it up & try to make this team worth watching next season & beyond.List of players to get rid of:1. Briere2. Bryz3. Hartnell4. Kimmo5. . . . .Feel free to add to this list.The only untouchables, IMO, are Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Coutourier, Grossmann & Coburn.I can't stomach any more of this crap hockey. This is NOT Flyers hockey.I keep Hartnell. Is Couturier all that safe anymore? Is he that valued anymore? Coburn right now I'd trade for a player of use or top pick. I don't think ANYONE on this team deserves "Untouchable" status Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Briere is useless and Bryzgalov has proven that last season was not an anomaly. It's time to shed the weight and move on. Sell. Let them know what it feels like to have a GM give up on them like they've given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Briere is useless and Bryzgalov has proven that last season was not an anomaly. It's time to shed the weight and move on. Sell. Let them know what it feels like to have a GM give up on them like they've given up.Phx gave up on Briere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 When he was 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Doom, Briere is good for one thing on the Ice and that is the playoffs. That's not happening and even if it does his production buys you maybe one round. After that the team gets eliminated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Doom, Briere is good for one thing on the Ice and that is the playoffs. That's not happening and even if it does his production buys you maybe one round. After that the team gets eliminated.I am NOT defending Briere, just pointing out facts.He's also money against Montreal, regular season or playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygrump Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That's great, but does it help this team going forward? No. It's time to think about selling and he's one piece that should go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doom88 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 That's great, but does it help this team going forward? No. It's time to think about selling and he's one piece that should go.Ok, seriously, I'm not defending Briere. Relax. I was very early in the trade Briere mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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