Phillygrump Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 That's a good point.Colorful characters attract viewers. Hockey is exciting enough to keep some of those who are attracted by flamboyant talkers.Some fans don't like Don Cherry, but he's a real asset to us who want to share our affection for hockey. I once sent an email to Ralph Mellanby suggesting that Eddie Shack and Esa Tikkanen did color on HNIC broadcasts. I think that would have been a huge hit. Eddie is brash, unhibited and Tikanen is Tikanen.Its kind of a shame to have guys like Edzo and Pierre McGuire representing the opinions on NBC. They are boring annoying people. These are the people selling the sport to fans in America. I don't get to see Don Cherry. I think he's a clown sometimes, but the guy is a personality. There are plenty of personalities in all the other sports, but hockey seems to either lack them or have them suppressed by the league. Pierre McGuire is enough to make me fall asleep during a game.Whether you like it or not this sport could use an infusion of personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Some of the post game interviews from these players are so dry and boring you wonder if they have any personalityMost interviews are almost exactly the same. Sometimes you wonder if these kids are trained in what to say and not say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Most interviews are almost exactly the same. Sometimes you wonder if these kids are trained in what to say and not say.Most of them have been around media for virtually their entire lives and have already learned what to say and what not to say.Whether junior or (gasp) NCAA, kids who are the most successful are going to have significant contact with press.And, yes, teams definitely have "communications" organizations to coach them when they need it (Ilya Bryzgalov notwithstanding).But, let's face it, even those of us who never played the game at a high level "know" what to say and what not to say in the context of a locker room.And "don't say anything stupid" is a rock solid place for most of these guys to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 And "don't say anything stupid" is a rock solid place for most of these guys to start.I dunno Rad.I'm pushing 80 and I say dumb things almost every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I dunno Rad.I'm pushing 80 and I say dumb things almost every day.Right, but I'm thinking you haven't had a microphone or notepad shoved in your face on a routine basis since you were 16 or 17.I'll bet they say dumb things even more frequently than you or I, but they know to Keep It Simple Stupid when there's a mic around.The younger generation who has grown up with videocameras in their pockets and broadband social media even moreso.Because they've seen the results of people saying stupid things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blocker Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Yeah.......I was making a joke.I also don't have the well-earned distrust of reporters of these kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Whether junior or (gasp) NCAA,being a half-half (Canadian / American), I have to say that you should not gasp about NCAA hockey or USAHockey for that matter. The advancement of hockey in America over the last 15-20 years has been tremendous. While culturally it is Canadas game, fundamentally it is everyone's game and USA are as skilled at it as the Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 @Vanflyer Rad isn't actually "gasping" at NCAA...it's an ongoing joke. Guys like me, jammer are always talking juniors up. Rad likes to put his two cents in for college hockey. I think it started, or should I say festered, when JVR refused to play junior up here and chose UNH. I rest my case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 being a half-half (Canadian / American), I have to say that you should not gasp about NCAA hockey or USAHockey for that matter. The advancement of hockey in America over the last 15-20 years has been tremendous. While culturally it is Canadas game, fundamentally it is everyone's game and USA are as skilled at it as the Canadians.FC pretty much nailed it.I am a proud UVM Alum, home to such NHLers and Cup winners as John LeClair, Martin St. Louis and Patrick Sharp. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I was proud Peterborough Petes fan before we got our own Junior A club. Home to such NHLers asKeith ActonBrad AitkenJeff AllanBob AttwellScott BarneyBob BerryZac BierkZach BogosianGerry BrissonJeff BrubakerRandy BurridgeDon CaleyColin CampbellTerry CarknerMatt CarknerJacques CaronTony CassolatoMurray HooperWayne ConnellyKeith CrowderJassen CullimorePaul CurtisJason DaweDenis DeJordyTie DomiSteve DownieJohn DruceDave DuerdenDallas EakinsKen EllacottBob ErreyDoug EvansKevin EvansPaul EvansShawn EvansTony FeatherstoneDavid FenyvesTom FergusMark FloodLarry FloydCorey FosterKurtis FosterMark FreerBob GaineyBill GardnerScott GarlandJohn GarrettDoug GibsonDan GloorDanny GrantWayne GretzkyDoug HalwardChuck HamiltonBilly HarrisShawn HeinsAndre HidiBill HuardJody HullDoug JarvisMatt JohnsonJoey JohnstonRandy JohnstonStan JonathanJim JonesJimmy JonesPatrick KaletaPat KavanaghKris KingGeordie KinnearMark KirtonEvgeny KorolevLukas KrajicekAndre LacroixRick LaFerriereRon LalondeJamie LangenbrunnerSteve LarmerClaude LaroseDon LaurenceHenri LehvonenSteve LyonJoey MacDonaldKevin MacDonaldCalum MacKayPaul MacKinnonRick MacLeishCameron MannKeith McCrearyPaul McIntoshScott McLellanDale McTavishMike MeekerAnssi MelametsaJim MikolGreg MillenGarry MonahanSteve MontadorDave MorrisonLarry MurphyBob MurrayRob MurrayBob NeelyFrank *****Danny O'SheaDennis PattersonJim PaveseSteve PetersBarclay PlagerBill PlagerRon PlumbMike PosavadChris ProngerCraig RamsayJake RathwellLiam Reddox**** RedmondMickey RedmondMark ReedsDave ReidMike RicciKen RichardsonLuke RichardsonFern RivardJimmy RobertsDave RochePeter ScamurraJohn SchellaAndy SchliebenerGlen SeabrookeSteve SeguinDavid ShandBruce ShoebottomDerrick SmithSteve SmithStu SmithIrv SpencerEric StaalJordan StaalRon StackhouseGreg StewartCory StillmanKen StrongPeter SullivanJohn TannerGreg ThebergeLeo ThiffaultShawn ThorntonTom ThurlbyTim TrimperRon TugnuttRick VaskoMike VeisorBryan WatsonSteve WebbKay WhitmoreJim WiemerJason WilliamsDunc WilsonKeith WrightBryan YoungSteve YzermanJames Willmore VF - see what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Well, I mean, Bruce Shoebottom? Who could forget the immortal Bruce Shoebottom? The sole of many of locker room...I, of course, neglected to mention Tim Thomas (another Cup winner), Eric Perron (also on the Cup)...Quality, you know - not quantity ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 True enough rad. I mean how could I possibly put names like Yzerman, Pronger, Staal (plural) Murphy, Larmer, MacLeish, Gainey Gretzky,and Schliebener up against those guys. Oh, we forgot to do coaches...I'll start Bowman, Neilson, Keenan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 True enough rad. I mean how could I possibly put names like Yzerman, Pronger, Staal (plural) Murphy, Larmer, MacLeish, Gainey Gretzky,and Schliebener up against those guys. Oh, we forgot to do coaches...I'll start Bowman, Neilson, Keenan :P/>Yes, well, being one of the premier junior teams does have its perks, doesn't it?UVM isn't even a perrennial threat, much less a Frozen Four competitor.Five Cup winners, multiple Vezinas and an MVP? In the past 20 years? I'll take that :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think it started, or should I say festered, when JVR refused to play junior up here and chose UNH. I rest my case.Okay. Its easy for me to play both sides. For me, I root for the underdog anytime and not the favourite. I am a halfie (note, not a newfie)- meaning half canadian and half american. I will look for the world juniors thread, but that 5-1 trouncing by USA against Canada says allot about the program in USA hockey right now. People say that USA is cocky etc.- particularly on TSN, but they completely diminish the development of USA hockey. Four years running now- not a gold for Canada (and a good shot that USA takes the gold home). For me, sometimes it is the Canadians that are cocky. I chuckle at times that most do not even know that Lacrosse is Canada's national sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 FC pretty much nailed it.I am a proud UVM Alum, home to such NHLers and Cup winners as John LeClair, Martin St. Louis and Patrick Sharp. :-)sorry- my bad. I did not know that. See my response to FC. Cheers and go gold USA!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 For me, sometimes it is the Canadians that are cocky. I chuckle at times that most do not even know that Lacrosse is Canada's national sport.That and "Canada has a Queen" were two of my favorite tropes dealing with Leaf Fans. That and continually referring to the Maple Leaes winning a Cup.You know how we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanflyer Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 tropesI had to look that up. I learned something new today. Well two things actually. While looking up the definition for tropes, I also learned a word that in its plural tense does not contain any of the letters of its singular tense (kine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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