AlaskaFlyerFan Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Please, Please, Please Bryz! You can stay in the KHL!!!http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=406898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Maybe this is why Snider is one of the main supporters of the lockout.......now if that is the case, I surely can weather this lockout a bit longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Please, Please, Please Bryz! You can stay in the KHL!!! http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=406898 Maybe this is why Snider is one of the main supporters of the lockout.......now if that is the case, I surely can weather this lockout a bit longer But can you weather it for ... say... 8 years? Cuz that's how long you have him for LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 @AlaskaFlyerFan "Like I said before, they have to take responsibility for their own actions." LMAO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 But can you weather it for ... say... 8 years? Cuz that's how long you have him for LOLMan the truth hurts............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Not to state the obvious, but some already have.Radulov, for example. One of the Kostitsyns just went back.Wouldn't surprise me if Semin was headed back there.And I still half-expect Bryz to serve out the last few years of his current deal in Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 OK, say the worst thing happens, Bryz is not effective next year at all. What if Snider gives a Russian team 50 mill to pay his KHL salary and grants him his release. Now, would the act of granting him his release be considered circumventing the cap? After all, he would be getting salary relief without a devastating cap buy out to pay for...is this a legit loophole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 @jammer2You mean they could basically "loan" him to a KHL club? Works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindbergh31 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 @jammer2You mean they could basically "loan" him to a KHL club? Works for me.Or we can hope Mrs Bryzgalov tells him that she does not want to come back to Philadelphia, so he's staying in the KHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podein25 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 That also works for me @Lindbergh31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 OK, say the worst thing happens, Bryz is not effective next year at all. What if Snider gives a Russian team 50 mill to pay his KHL salary and grants him his release. Now, would the act of granting him his release be considered circumventing the cap? After all, he would be getting salary relief without a devastating cap buy out to pay for...is this a legit loophole?I think it's more like Bryz "retires" and then six months later "tries a comeback" in the KHL and the Flyers don't and/or meagerly contest it.Could all be moot under the new CBA anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 @radoran Yes, I have a feeling Bettman will be dotting I's and Crossing T's by the time this next CBA is signed. Lot's of loopholes to address, which I'm sure he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlfly Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Even i'm russian, but I tell u agree with you all 100%, I hope he will be stay there for once and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hf101 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Now Zetterberg states that some Russians may stay in Russia.......“I know for a fact Russians will probably stay,” Zetterberg said. “I can’t blame them either. The Russian league treats players a different way. For them to play in their home country and not have these [labor] disputes every other year … and they honor the contracts over there.“If you sign a deal, that’s the deal you get.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Posturing. if the KHL were such a great place to be, why would they all come here in the first place. This is all posturing by the players association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Posturing. if the KHL were such a great place to be, why would they all come here in the first place. This is all posturing by the players association.Well, maybe not...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/hockey/nhl/07/16/khl-nhl-agreement.ap/index.html7.16.2012NEW YORK (AP) -- The National Hockey League and Kontinental Hockey League have extended their agreement for another year which calls for each to work together on the transfer of players between the leagues.The announcement was posted on the Russia-based KHL's website. The extension runs through June 30, 2013.Suppose it's July, 2013 and there is no extension of the agreement? If the NHL lockout takes out the whole season, I could see the KHL saying they "have to let the players play" and signing some of the Russian stars - Ovechkin? Malkin? - who may just burn their bridge in the NHL (and perhaps even make more money in the KHL in a "hometown bonus").I had thought they had more a formal agreement instead of a memorandum of understanding - and they claim to never have had a dispute over a contract (Radulov notwithstanding). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 @radoran I wonder what a rollback/ salary slash would do to the whole scenario....the KHL could make out like bandits here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaris922 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Well, maybe not...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/hockey/nhl/07/16/khl-nhl-agreement.ap/index.htmlSuppose it's July, 2013 and there is no extension of the agreement? If the NHL lockout takes out the whole season, I could see the KHL saying they "have to let the players play" and signing some of the Russian stars - Ovechkin? Malkin? - who may just burn their bridge in the NHL (and perhaps even make more money in the KHL in a "hometown bonus").I had thought they had more a formal agreement instead of a memorandum of understanding - and they claim to never have had a dispute over a contract (Radulov notwithstanding).I still think its posturing. The best players in the world remain in the NHL. The Stanley Cup remains in the NHL. The best Russian players still want to win it all against the best competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 @hf101For them to play in their home country and not have these [labor] disputes every other year … and they honor the contracts over there.“If you sign a deal, that’s the deal you get.” Do their airlines honor their contracts? And with that deal you also get the Russian way of life. Quality of life is much better over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 @hf101For them to play in their home country and not have these [labor] disputes every other year … and they honor the contracts over there.“If you sign a deal, that’s the deal you get.” Do their airlines honor their contracts? And with that deal you also get the Russian way of life. Quality of life is much better over here.No plane has ever crashed in America. Good to know.The "Russian way of life" may not look so bad - to Russians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 @radoran Oh the planes do crash over here, but the pilots who crash them are usually qualified to fly them...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 No plane has ever crashed in America. Good to know.The "Russian way of life" may not look so bad - to Russians...How many pro teams have been wiped out by planes piloted by non-pilots?It may not look so bad, until they come over here. I get the family and friends thing. Don't know what it's like in Philly, but we've had a LOT of Russians immigrate to this area over the last ten years or so. I doubt many North Americans are going the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 It may not look so bad, until they come over here. I get the family and friends thing. Don't know what it's like in Philly, but we've had a LOT of Russians immigrate to this area over the last ten years or so. I doubt many North Americans are going the other way.There is a large and growing Russian population in the Northeast area of Philly and a fairly huge community in North Jersey.The difference being that hockey players - oligarchs, etc. - making millions lead a significantly different life than the average person in Russia. Or anywhere for that matter.Trying to make that comparison for the average person - in 2005, average Russian income was about $11K and the "current economic crisis" hasn't exactly helped - is like trying to pretend the NHL lockout is some sort of run-of-the-mill "labor dispute."Russians don't grow up dreaming about winning the Stanley Cup like Canadians and, to an extent, Americans do. Their primary focus - like most Europeans - is the world stage in Championships and Olympics.I'll wager Forsberg holds his Gold Medal in higher regard than his Cups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Totally agree with you there Rad. It's why I'm not a Russian fan when it comes to the NHL, they just don't seem to care for the most part. Sure you have the odd Datsyuk, but there's way more Kovalevs and Kozlovs and Kovalchuks (whose a hybrid of determination and don't give a #%$@). I don't think theres another nationality who cares less about winning the cup in any of the "hockey" nations. Hockey players do lead a better life than your average Vlad. But from what my nephew told me, there's a lot of ugly industrial cities over there that just don't have the same quality of life you get here. And he was always worried about their aircraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahophilly Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 @radoran I wonder what a rollback/ salary slash would do to the whole scenario....the KHL could make out like bandits here!That's my thought as well. It might be posturing by the NHLPA but if they slash (and by default betray all the contracts they signed in good faith) the players salaries then I could see the excrement hiting the ocillating air mover... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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