OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 12 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Do you get 'elite" at 4th? So who would the choice be by then?? Lindstrom or Demidov??? Are either Elite?? I have to say i'm not qualified to make that call because i don't keep up with scouting like i use to. But one is a Center who may project to a #1 and the other is a LW/RW who can project to a top like winger. One is a former teammate of their current top stars they have now. A very hard choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 29 minutes ago, FD19372 said: If one of those assets, is a high pick from next year, I don't have much problem with it. There could be still be opportunities, to get that pick back, next season. hard call to me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 31 minutes ago, FD19372 said: If one of those assets, is a high pick from next year, I don't have much problem with it. There could be still be opportunities, to get that pick back, next season. Welp that is that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 So that must tell you a lot when no one wanted this guy even if they picked up 50% of his salary must mean they want to just move on now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just now, OccamsRazor said: So that must tell you a lot when no one wanted this guy even if they picked up 50% of his salary must mean they want to just move on now.... He's cooked. If he's still in the league in 2025-26, I'll be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Just now, FD19372 said: He's cooked. If he's still in the league in 2025-26, I'll be shocked. I am good and trust they have a plan and are putting into action... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 22 hours ago, flyercanuck said: But they overachieved, and still missed the playoffs. That's how close they are to contending....not very. Of course Briere thinks they could contend in 5 years....every GM thinks that This is an interesting point. A safe play for a GM. If you aren’t good in five years, you’ll likely to not be here to answer anymore questions about it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JR Ewing Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, OccamsRazor said: Yeah is it too much to give up maybe 3 really good players for one elite one though? Seriously asking? And giving up 3 assets for one to only have that one bust would be a huge huge set back. If you make that trade, it needs to deliver 100%. Not close, not sort of. You need to 100% end up with an elite player, and that's just not assured at #4. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 53 minutes ago, flyercanuck said: Think you answered your own question. Columbus is picking 4th. Do you get 'elite" at 4th? You could...maybe. Colorado did okay in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 18 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: According to Anthony DiMarco on Twitter, (yes this is a repeat post) the deal between Columbus and the Flyers, is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, JR Ewing said: If you make that trade, it needs to deliver 100% Hell yes it does. And the Patrick Nolan and other draft picks that didn't come through (which also happens to other teams as well not lost on me) has set them back enough. So either let the draft fall how it is going to fall or commit and go get your guy. But Danny Jones has to knock this out the park miss and it could set you back 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 34 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said: I am good and trust they have a plan and are putting into action... Seems like opening up some space to add something so they can get something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 minute ago, OccamsRazor said: Hell yes it does. And the Patrick Nolan and other draft picks that didn't come through (which also happens to other teams as well not lost on me) has set them back enough. So either let the draft fall how it is going to fall or commit and go get your guy. But Danny Jones has to knock this out the park miss and it could set you back 2-3 years. Right. It's why you can't pick an injured player, or Eiserman. This is a must succeed pick, and not a luxury one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 4 minutes ago, JR Ewing said: that's just not assured at #4. And i meant to add how else will this team get to #4 to even have that chance again though? We all can most agree they mid as hell and will be hovering around 12-16 for a few years coming even. But next year's draft is suppose to be deeper...so if they don't like it they may have a chance to pick up something next year to move back... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Definitely saying no to giving up either 25 pick to move up in this one. Have a roster player and 32 or 12 but ****off if another team wants a 2025. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 The Kings just acquired the 26th, 57th and 198th pick from the Canadiens, for the 21st overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 9 minutes ago, FD19372 said: According to Anthony DiMarco on Twitter, (yes this is a repeat post) the deal between Columbus and the Flyers, is dead. Sens at #7 is owned by Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) 2 minutes ago, flyer4ever said: Sens at #7 is owned by Boston. When did this happen? In the Ulmark trade? Edited June 28 by mojo1917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 (edited) Shot across the bow incoming ..... Cease and desist with the insulting posts ..... several have been hidden. Granted we are all passionate about this team and have ideas on how DB and company should proceed. Please be respectful to one another .... Carry on ...... Edited June 28 by pilldoc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctid Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, flyer4ever said: Sens at #7 is owned by Boston. If you are referring to the Ulmark trade, then the 7th was not part of the deal. It's the Sens later first round pick that was involved. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 The official trade between Boston / Ottawa: The Senators announced Monday that they had acquired goaltender Linus Ullmark from the Boston Bruins. In exchange, Boston will receive goaltender Joonas Korpisalo, centre Mark Kastelic and the Senators 25th overall pick in Friday's NHL Draft 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, mojo1917 said: Colorado did okay in 2017. Every draft is different. Boston did pretty good at #25 in 2014. We all know Clarke wanted Makar all along, even though he never mentioned it for years after. The fact that several teams want to trade down tells me how many think there isn't a lot of difference between picking 4-12 or whatever. Colorado also knows how to build a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 hours ago, FD19372 said: Right. It's why you can't pick an injured player, or Eiserman. This is a must succeed pick, and not a luxury one. When you don't rebuild properly, all your picks become "must succeed" picks. This is where they have been for 15 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, flyercanuck said: Every draft is different. Boston did pretty good at #25 in 2014. We all know Clarke wanted Makar all along, even though he never mentioned it for years after. The fact that several teams want to trade down tells me how many think there isn't a lot of difference between picking 4-12 or whatever. Colorado also knows how to build a winner. BITFU and draft. 2 evolutions. And throw in a little shrewd asset management. A concept that continues to elude everyone in Flyerland. They think one more shiny toy and a caveman coach will get us to the promised land. I await this evening with trepidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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