2024 Entry Level Draft - Confirmed Flyers pick at #12

[flyercanuck]

Combine heights and weights...

 

https://thehockeywriters.com/2024-nhl-combine-heights-and-weights/

 

 

7:30 AM

• Jack Berglund: 6-foot-3.5, 210 pounds.
• Michael Brandsegg-Nygard: 6-foot-0.75, 207 pounds.
• Gabriel Eliasson: 6-foot-6.75, 206 pounds.
• Linus Eriksson: 6-foot, 189 pounds.
• Melvin Fernstrom: 6-foot-0.75, 188 pounds.
• Leon Muggli: 6-foot-0.5, 177 pounds.
• Lucas Pettersson: 5-foot-11.5, 173 pounds.
• Leo Sahlin Wallenius: 6-foot, 180 pounds.

8:00 AM

• Charlie Elick: 6-foot-3.25, 202 pounds.
• Spencer Gill: 6-foot-3.75, 186 pounds.
• Tanner Henricks: 6-foot-3.75, 206 pounds.
• Christian Humphreys: 5-foot-11, 164 pounds.
• Ondrej Kos: 6-foot-2.5, 176 pounds.
• Eriks Mateiko: 6-foot-5, 216 pounds.
• Teddy Stiga: 5-foot-10, 178 pounds.
• Herman Traff: 6-foot-2.75, 216 pounds.

8:30 AM

• Andrew Basha: 5-foot-11.25, 187 pounds.
• Berkly Catton: 5-foot-10.25, 175 pounds.
• Macklin Celebrini: 5-foot-11.75, 197 pounds.
• Michael Hage: 6-foot-0.75, 188 pounds.
• Tanner Howe: 5-foot-10, 184 pounds.
• Tomas Lavoie: 6-foot-4, 225 pounds (note: unconfirmed, did not see his name on the board.)
• Miguel Marques: 5-foot-10.25, 187 pounds.
• Maxim Masse: 6-foot-2.25, 190 pounds.

Macklin Celebrini measured just under 6-feet at the NHL Combine. (Photo by Richard T Gagnon/Getty Images)

9:00 AM

• Alexis Bernier: 6-foot-1.25, 197 pounds.
• Raoul Boilard: 6-foot-1, 189 pounds.
• Henry Mews: 6-foot-0.25, 189 pounds.
• Colton Roberts: 6-foot-3.75, 204 pounds.
• Anthony Romani: 6-foot-0.25, 184 pounds.
• Tarin Smith: 6-foot-1.25, 187 pounds.
• Carson Wetsch: 6-foot-0.5, 203 pounds.
• Carter Yakemchuk: 6-foot-3, 202 pounds.

9:30 AM

• Sam Dickinson: 6-foot-2.75, 203 pounds.
• Carter George: 6-foot-1, 194 pounds.
• Liam Greentree: 6-foot-2.5, 215 pounds.
• Tij Iginla: 6-foot, 191 pounds.
• Oliver Josephson: 6-foot-0.25, 190 pounds.
• Dean Letourneau: 6-foot-6.5, 214 pounds.
• Jack Pridham: 6-foot-1, 177 pounds.
• Jared Woolley: 6-foot-4.5, 207 pounds.

10:00 AM

• Dominik Badinka: 6-foot-2.75, 185 pounds.
• Ondrej Becher: 6-foot-1.25, 187 pounds.
• Cole Eiserman: 5-foot-11.75, 197 pounds.
• Alfons Freij: 6-foot-0.5, 197 pounds.
• Adam Jecho: 6-foot-5, 201 pounds.
• Adam Jiricek: did not test
• Anthony AJ Spellacy: 6-foot-2.5, 200 pounds.
• Simon Zether: 6-foot-3, 176 pounds.

10:30 AM

• Kamil Bednarik: 6-foot-0.25, 187 pounds.
• Maxmilian Curran: 6-foot-3, 185 pounds.
• Eric EJ Emery: 6-foot-3.25, 183 pounds.
• Tomas Galvas: 5-foot-10.25, 153 pounds.
• Matvei Gridin: 6-foot-1.5, 189 pounds.
• Cole Hutson: did not test
• Lucas Van Vliet: 6-foot-1.75, 178 pounds.
• Mikhail Yegorov: 6-foot-5, 188 pounds.

11:00 AM

• Konsta Helenius: 5-foot-11, 189 pounds.
• Emil Hemming, 6-foot-1.25, 205 pounds.
• Aron Kiviharju: 5-foot-9.5, 184 pounds.
• Aatos Koivu: 6-foot-0.5, 170 pounds.
• Artyom Levshunov: 6-foot-1.75, 205 pounds.
• Zayne Parekh: 6-foot-0.25, 178 pounds.
• Sebastian Soini: 6-foot-2.5, 187 pounds.
• Veeti Vaisanen: 6-foot-0.5, 188 pounds.

Artyom Levshunov had one dinner with a team this week, the Chicago Blackhawks. (MSU Athletic Communications)

11:30 AM

• Lukas Fischer: 6-foot-3, 182 pounds.
• Kevin He: 5-foot-11.25, 181 pounds.
• Julius Miettinen: 6-foot-3, 201 pounds.
• Kasper Pikkarainen: 6-foot-3, 197 pounds.
• Max Plante: 5-foot-11, 177 pounds.
• Jesse Pulkkinen: 6-foot-6, 219 pounds.
• Stian Solberg: 6-foot-1.5, 205 pounds.
• Nathan Villeneuve: 5-foot-11, 193 pounds.

12:30 PM

• Jacob Battaglia: 6-foot-0.5, 202 pounds.
• Cole Beaudoin: 6-foot-2, 210 pounds.
• Harrison Brunicke: 5-foot-10.5, 196 pounds.
• Cayden Lindstrom: 6-foot-3, 213 pounds.
• Jett Luchanko: 5-foot-11, 187 pounds.
• Riley Patterson: 6-foot-0.25, 193 pounds.
• Ethan Procyszyn: 6-foot-2.25, 190 pounds.

1:00 PM

• Sacha Boisvert: 6-foot-2, 183 pounds.
• Zeev Buium: 6-foot, 186 pounds.
• Ben Danford: 6-foot-1.5, 191 pounds.
• Luca Marrelli: 6-foot-1.5, 185 pounds.
• John Mustard: 6-foot-1, 186 pounds.
• Sam O’Reilly: 6-foot-1.25, 184 pounds.
• Terik Parascak: 5-foot-11.75, 179 pounds.
• Ryder Ritchie: 6-foot-0.25, 177 pounds.

1:30 PM

• Hagen Burrows: 6-foot-2.25, 177 pounds.
• Trevor Connolly: 6-foot-0.75, 160 pounds.
• Adam Kleber: 6-foot-5.5, 215 pounds.
• Javon Moore: 6-foot-4.5, 203 pounds.
• Colin Ralph: 6-foot-4.25, 226 pounds.
• Will Skahan: 6-foot-4.5, 215 pounds.
• Brodie Ziemer: 5-foot-11, 196 pounds.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 9 by flyercanuck

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

54 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Who are "these fans"?

 

We need top end talent. The way pretty much every team gets said talent is through the draft. The Oilers aren't giving us McDavid or Draisaitl. Florida isn't giving us Barkov and Ekblad. If you can get that kind of talent, you then fill in the holes with acquirable talent. But you don't "start" with 29-34 year olds.

You need to look for the doozie in which it was said you build through free agency and use the draft to supplement.....

[flyercanuck]

7 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

You need to look for the doozie in which it was said you build through free agency and use the draft to supplement.....

 

You mean like pre-salary cap? 

 

That's how Philly (and many others) rolled then....and we still didn't win. 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

32 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

You mean like pre-salary cap? 

 

That's how Philly (and many others) rolled then....and we still didn't win. 

Post salary cap. It was about two to three years ago.....

[tucson83]

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Who are "these fans"?

 

We need top end talent. The way pretty much every team gets said talent is through the draft. The Oilers aren't giving us McDavid or Draisaitl. Florida isn't giving us Barkov and Ekblad. If you can get that kind of talent, you then fill in the holes with acquirable talent. But you don't "start" with 29-34 year olds.

i swear even if we end up with top end talent and still lose like the sixers, you are going make every excuse in the book and be happy with that and if we win a cup with no top end talent, you going to find some reason to be upset about it.

 

because every team i listed so many times that won cups without tanking, you are still being negative about it because you cant stand watching a team without top end players, well that's how the draft and lottery works, you are one that cant accept it, especially when we were supposed to get kane and we had the worst record and got jvr, yet it's the management's fault and not the nhl right?

Edited June 9 by tucson83

[OccamsRazor]

2 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

Who are "these fans"?

 

 

You and @Podein25

 

We know what you look like now...

 

Just not sure which is you and which is Pods!!!

[Podein25]

7 minutes ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

You and @Podein25

 

We know what you look like now...

 

Just not sure which is you and which is Pods!!!

 

Lol, it's true: I am stupid enough to do that.

[OccamsRazor]

53 minutes ago, Podein25 said:

 

Lol, it's true: I am stupid enough to do that.

 

 

All i want to know is didn't it work?

 

I'm asking for a friend who wants to build one....

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

1 hour ago, tucson83 said:

i swear even if we end up with top end talent and still lose like the sixers, you are going make every excuse in the book and be happy with that and if we win a cup with no top end talent, you going to find some reason to be upset about it.

 

because every team i listed so many times that won cups without tanking, you are still being negative about it because you cant stand watching a team without top end players, well that's how the draft and lottery works, you are one that cant accept it, especially when we were supposed to get kane and we had the worst record and got jvr, yet it's the management's fault and not the nhl right?

When they consistently select the wrong player, yes, it's definitely management's fault. 

[ruxpin]

2 hours ago, tucson83 said:

i swear even if we end up with top end talent and still lose like the sixers, you are going make every excuse in the book and be happy with that and if we win a cup with no top end talent, you going to find some reason to be upset about it.

 

because every team i listed so many times that won cups without tanking, you are still being negative about it because you cant stand watching a team without top end players, well that's how the draft and lottery works, you are one that cant accept it, especially when we were supposed to get kane and we had the worst record and got jvr, yet it's the management's fault and not the nhl right?

You just have to be smarter picking

 

[flyercanuck]

4 hours ago, tucson83 said:

i swear even if we end up with top end talent and still lose like the sixers, you are going make every excuse in the book and be happy with that and if we win a cup with no top end talent, you going to find some reason to be upset about it.

 

 Who's the sixers?   If we ever assemble top end talent, that'd be great. If we win a cup with no top end talent, then wake up, you're dreaming. 

 

4 hours ago, tucson83 said:

 

because every team i listed so many times that won cups without tanking, you are still being negative about it because you cant stand watching a team without top end players, well that's how the draft and lottery works, you are one that cant accept it, especially when we were supposed to get kane and we had the worst record and got jvr, yet it's the management's fault and not the nhl right?

 

Every team you've listed so many times? Theres been like 2 in the last 20 years. I can't accept that it's pretty obvious what you need to win a championship (top end talent) yet the Flyers constantly pretend you don't. 50 years later...FIFTY YEARS, and they still don't think we need it. 

 

Show me where I've complained we didn't get Kane in that draft. Go ahead, show me. I'll wait.

[flyercanuck]

5 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

You and @Podein25

 

We know what you look like now...

 

Just not sure which is you and which is Pods!!!

 

I swear I've never been to the moon with Pods. (that I can remember)

[radoran]

46 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

 

I swear I've never been to the moon with Pods. (that I can remember)

 

That's not what the sheep said.

 

[flyercanuck]

6 minutes ago, radoran said:

 

That's not what the sheep said.

 

 

That's ba-a-ad

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

7 hours ago, OccamsRazor said:

 

 

You and @Podein25

 

We know what you look like now...

 

Just not sure which is you and which is Pods!!!

Oh hell yeah!!!! After I had a stroke almost 11 years ago, my neurologist said that smoking pot was good for me to help with the migraines that I now get. I'd try it. No doubt about it.

[OccamsRazor]

9 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Oh hell yeah!!!! After I had a stroke almost 11 years ago, my neurologist said that smoking pot was good for me to help with the migraines that I now get. I'd try it. No doubt about it.

 

I'd try it too. This summer....

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/philadelphia-flyers/latest-news/flyers-speak-with-multiple-prospects-during-combine-give-clearer-picture-of-who-they-want-at-12th

 

Well, I guess Yakemchuk it is. And then probably Petterssen at 31. 

[tucson83]

14 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

 Who's the sixers?   If we ever assemble top end talent, that'd be great. If we win a cup with no top end talent, then wake up, you're dreaming. 

 

 

Every team you've listed so many times? Theres been like 2 in the last 20 years. I can't accept that it's pretty obvious what you need to win a championship (top end talent) yet the Flyers constantly pretend you don't. 50 years later...FIFTY YEARS, and they still don't think we need it. 

 

Show me where I've complained we didn't get Kane in that draft. Go ahead, show me. I'll wait.

yeah your right, let's keep building this team like sens and sabres, get screwed in the draft, dont make the playoffs and seeing you complain about coaching for the next 50 years instead of getting experience players.

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

2 hours ago, tucson83 said:

yeah your right, let's keep building this team like sens and sabres, get screwed in the draft, dont make the playoffs and seeing you complain about coaching for the next 50 years instead of getting experience players.

Once again, great examples of bad management. You're making it easier and easier to build through the draft. That's how you build winners - through the draft. It allows for financial flexibility, it allows for building of a great farm system and it allows for making those kinds of gone run swings you need to take to try to get your team over the top. 

 

You mention Ottawa and Buffalo and look at the messed they've created. After Bryan Murray passed away in Ottawa, he left Pierre Dorion with a superb farm system and team. Dorion pissed it all away with continual bad moves and then when the Senators were forced to rebuild, he still managed to bungle that up by selecting piss poor players and bad trades. Bad management kills. Doesn't matter if you build through the draft, trade everything or sign free agents and burn valuable cap space. Now you're seeing that with what Briere has to fix. 

[ruxpin]

10 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

Once again, great examples of bad management. You're making it easier and easier to build through the draft. That's how you build winners - through the draft. It allows for financial flexibility, it allows for building of a great farm system and it allows for making those kinds of gone run swings you need to take to try to get your team over the top. 

 

You mention Ottawa and Buffalo and look at the messed they've created. After Bryan Murray passed away in Ottawa, he left Pierre Dorion with a superb farm system and team. Dorion pissed it all away with continual bad moves and then when the Senators were forced to rebuild, he still managed to bungle that up by selecting piss poor players and bad trades. Bad management kills. Doesn't matter if you build through the draft, trade everything or sign free agents and burn valuable cap space. Now you're seeing that with what Briere has to fix. 

 

You and your logic, common sense, and fact-based posts.      

 

But experienced player fantasy response!!!!

[radoran]

13 minutes ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said:

That's how you build winners - through the draft.

 

A great example is Florida.

 

Florida signed and traded for the vast majority of the roster.

 

But they couldn't have acquired Barkov and Ekblad without the draft. And they're not in the Final without them.

 

Teams don't typically let that kind of top talent get onto the market.

 

Except for - to your point - bad management.

 

When you're able to pick up a Vezina-caliber goalie and a #2 and #6 overall, you're exploiting three absolutely terrible GMs to do it.

[ruxpin]

46 minutes ago, radoran said:

When you're able to pick up a Vezina-caliber goalie and a #2 and #6 overall, you're exploiting three absolutely terrible GMs to do it.

 

Agreed, and sadly for the Flyers, we're usually one of the the absolutely terrible GMs being exploited.

[flyercanuck]

9 hours ago, tucson83 said:

yeah your right, let's keep building this team like sens and sabres, get screwed in the draft, dont make the playoffs and seeing you complain about coaching for the next 50 years instead of getting experience players.

 

Instead of looking at the 2 worst case scenarios, why don't you look at all the cup winning teams over the last 20 years and see how many 1st and 2nd overalls are on each team. Of course there will be the odd team that either gets a not so great 1st overall, or has completely incompetent management (like the last Flyer GM, that you thought was doing a great job and left the team in shambles). And actually, Ottawa IS a good example...rhyme off all their 1st and 2nd overalls on the team. They have none.

 

You can argue it all you want, but over 90% of cup winners (or finalists) in the last couple decades have multiple top picks on their team. The other proof is in the Flyers NOT doing that, and being cupless for FIVE DECADES!

Edited June 10 by flyercanuck

[radoran]

33 minutes ago, flyercanuck said:

over 90% of cup winners (or finalists) in the last couple decades have multiple top picks on their team.

 

You have to go back to 2008 for the Cup winner team that doesn't have at least two top five picks.

 

And that situation - getting a Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Lidstrom out of the first round - doesn't exist any more because after they did it teams took scouting in Europe 1000% more seriously.

 

Any position that starts with "this one time, sixteen years ago" isn't one that should be taken particularly seriously.

Edited June 10 by radoran

[Cheesesteak]

22 hours ago, flyercanuck said:

 

Show me where I've complained we didn't get Kane in that draft. Go ahead, show me. I'll wait.