Cheesesteak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Flyers Stuck in Purgatory Because of Decades Relying on King-Making “Network” good research on the list...reading the chronology makes ya wanna 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) @Cheesesteak Thanks for the link. That article is Banana bonkers in describing the incestuous nature of hockey's Cosa nostra/good old boys network. It's worse than anyone thinks. Edited January 23, 2023 by mojo1917 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 58 minutes ago, Cheesesteak said: Flyers Stuck in Purgatory Because of Decades Relying on King-Making “Network” good research on the list...reading the chronology makes ya wanna Great article....NONE of it surprises me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Yeah, a sad read. It is like the Leafs and King Clancy. Until the Old Boys pass from the scene via death or retirement, the SOS continues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 “One of the fan narratives that exists on the Interwebs is that Bob Clarke and Paul Holmgren are still pulling the roster management strings of the Flyers and they’re the reason the team is still stuck in hockey purgatory. And while that narrative is completely wrong when it comes to making roster decisions, it’s not far off line when it comes to the malaise that looms over the franchise because of a deep-rooted history of the people in charge all being so intimately linked together.” Holy Crap are they reading our forum’s….. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 “Because recent events have proven that the Flyers will never fix themselves until there is a complete overhaul of hockey operations and that the new faces in the department are not “in the network,” so to speak.” in not so many words, many if us have said the same thing….. I absolutely amazed how this has literally affected the entire life of this franchise….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 This is a tremendous article confirming what everyone on here already knows…. Comparing the FO to a mafia family is spot on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It's not a about controlling individual decisions. It's about how the organization* thinks about everything at a fundamental level. They are staring at five decades without a championship and Dave Scott is declaring they are doubling down. They can actually physically stop you from doing this at casinos. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer4ever Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 At the very least Flyer brass should go see Dr Melfi. I'm sure she could share some wisdom about nepotism and stupidity. The "list" is so sad its funny. I agree about the thought process of feeling bullet proof, but these guys were elite, competitive athletes. Surely at some point winning has to matter, doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) "Clarke offers an assistant GM job to a 27-year old with no hockey experience. That person is Chuck Fletcher, Cliff’s son." Assistant GM...to a guy with zero hockey experience. What could go wrong? That was TWENTY EIGHT years ago....and he still knows nothing about hockey. Edited January 24, 2023 by flyercanuck 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Infuriating article. While it's nothing that most of us didn't already know, it's extremely interesting and revealing when put in timeline form like it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, flyercanuck said: "Clarke offers an assistant GM job to a 27-year old with no hockey experience. That person is Chuck Fletcher, Cliff’s son." Assistant GM...to a guy with zero hockey experience. What could go wrong? That was TWENTY EIGHT years ago....and he still knows nothing about hockey. The very definition of insanity ....... I am still at a loss for words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Infuriating article. While it's nothing that most of us didn't already know, it's extremely interesting and revealing when put in timeline form like it is. What is more infuriating is that this crap essentially has been going on since the inception of this franchise. The behind the scenes handshakes is disgusting. As one reads the timeline everything begins to make sense especially with most recent events of the Hextall firing. Agree or disagree with some of his moves is another topic for another day, but the way I am imaging his dismissal is almost how those who conspired to have Kennedy assassinated. To continue the metaphor used in the article, the Hextall firing, in some aspects, was equivalent to a mob hit .... plain and simple.... and that disgusts me to the point why should I be a fan of this franchise any longer. There I said it ...... Unless something drastic happens, I do not expect any real meaningful changes anytime soon...... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLYERS67 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 After reading that, it's like a bad soap opera. All My Flyers, As the Flyers Turn. What a cluster f--k this has become. What happens next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkscrewy Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Greetings: Two Points: 1) In a less competitive league with no salary cap, the O and B could survive and thrive as a big market club. They could, within reason, buy sufficient talent to challenge every year because the same six or eight clubs were dominant while the others were afterthoughts. 2) Here is a piece from the The Hockey News about our entrance into the "mushy middle" that doesn't add a lot of game-changing talent or lead to playoff success: Philadelphia Flyers Climb Standings Into NHL's Mushy Middle - The Hockey News This dovetails with the Mafia piece and what it leads to: Semper Med! Edited January 24, 2023 by Howie58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 3 hours ago, ruxpin said: Infuriating article. While it's nothing that most of us didn't already know, it's extremely interesting and revealing when put in timeline form like it is. Agreed. It's funny that the team component of a franchise is all about winning titles, but the front office component in this case, is just about ensuring financial career stability and taking care of your friends. How nic that all those front office execs and team managers have had successful years while the team failed and the fans suffered but hey, they did give us Daniel Carcillo and Nic Delauriers. Yay us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Sadly, I think the whole Stanley Cup/Pre-Salary Cap-Strike cohort will need to pass from the scene. People have said it here before. It is sad but real. Comcast divestiture might help and speed the process. But I am not holding my breath. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, pilldoc said: As one reads the timeline everything begins to make sense especially with most recent events of the Hextall firing. Agree or disagree with some of his moves is another topic for another day, but the way I am imaging his dismissal is almost how those who conspired to have Kennedy assassinated. This has always been my narrative. I think it's pretty obvious in the context of that article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 I always assumed Chuck Fletcher had “friends in high places” - how else could he possibly be an NHL GM - but I never imagined the Flyers all-time greatest player was one of them. As if I wasn’t depressed enough about this stupid team... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyercanuck Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: I always assumed Chuck Fletcher had “friends in high places” - how else could he possibly be an NHL GM His dad was a GM. He's like Chris Farley in Tommy Boy. Doesn't have a clue what he's doing trying to run the business his dad built. Except this movie doesn't have a happy ending...and Chuck isn't funny...at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post radoran Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 hours ago, flyercanuck said: His dad was a GM. He's like Chris Farley in Tommy Boy. Doesn't have a clue what he's doing trying to run the business his dad built. Except this movie doesn't have a happy ending...and Chuck isn't funny...at all. I traded a second rounder for a van down by the river! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesesteak Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 22 hours ago, flyercanuck said: His dad was a GM. He's like Chris Farley in Tommy Boy. Doesn't have a clue what he's doing trying to run the business his dad built. Except this movie doesn't have a happy ending...and Chuck isn't funny...at all. Remember that time when the Flyers won two Stanley Cups? That was pretty awesome 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cheesesteak said: Remember that time when the Flyers won two Stanley Cups? That was pretty awesome I remember it well, I was six to eight years old. OK, maybe I don't remember it all that well. Now I try to cope with it still being when I was six to eight years old with something that's disturbingly? conveniently also six to eight years old... If the glass is half empty, add ice - it's hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesesteak Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Cheesesteak said: Remember that time when the Flyers won two Stanley Cups? That was pretty awesome WOOO, this post threw me over-the-top, I'm a Collaborator now !! Sounds better to say :I'm collaborating" than "I'm posting on a message board" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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