MaineFlyFan Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, yave1964 said: Love Torts, the Flyers may be bad but the coach will keep them entertaining. Haha.... The Flyers have dropped so low we're now "tuning in" to watch the coach!...... Classic! (And I agree completely that Torts will be the most entertaining part of this season.... which is sad.) 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, MaineFlyFan said: (And I agree completely that Torts will be the most entertaining part of this season.... which is sad.) Unfortunately, that's ALL on Schmuck Felcher and his 'incredible' team building skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 17 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said: And yet we all know, Braun(35), Anisimov(34-will obviously get a pathetic Fletcher deal), Roussel(32-will also obviously get a ridiculous Fletcher deal and be touted as the "type of player that Tortorella loves"...), JVR(33), Atkinson(33), Deslauriers(31), Hayes(30), Brown(30), Seeler(29), Laughton(28) will all be wearing a Flyers sweater this season among the 23 man roster. Wait I thought you wanted to go for Bedard? Well if so wouldn't that be the best way to tank and do it? Seems it would be too me to put a bunch of old guys out there instead of a bunch of hungry do anything to get it done kids out there? Sometimes it just feels like no matter what they do you're going to bitch about it. Can't have it both ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrittyForever Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 5 hours ago, GratefulFlyers said: Exactly. That was their one and only stab at a rebuild. Holmgren had emptied the cupboard so completely he left them no choice but to rebuild. It seems Hextall was the last Flyers' GM to actually have a plan. I don't know if he would've delivered a Cup eventually but he was building the right way. He drafted: Franchise goalie - check Likely top-pair D-men - check Talented forwards -check Maybe it would've taken another 4 years, maybe more. But it's been that long and the Flyers are only worse than they've ever been... Absolutely. You build championship teams by trading away veterans for more picks and prospects. You don't trade away picks and prospects for veterans other people don't want. There are many examples of dumb management but the Risto trade sums it up best. If you look at Buffalo who have had a series of bad GMs (and coaches) trading away Risto and the rest of their big names has resulted in a prospect pool that is literally over flowing with potential talent. They have so many people coming, plus multiple picks still coming (including our 2nd rounder) that in a few years they won't have spots for them. Boston, Washington, Pittsburgh are all on their last legs. Tampa is still good but aging. The conference will flip soon and the good teams will be Carolina, NYR, along with Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, and the way Fletcher has managed things we will be left far behind unless Torts can somehow right this thing (but I suspect there isn't enough talent to make that possible). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, FireDillabaugh said: Ignore them if you wish. You got it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, OccamsRazor said: You got it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 O'Reilly is only there to land an AHL contract. No one is giving a 36 year old dead horse an NHL contract and a roster spot. His time to play in the NHL was 10 years ago. This is just about collecting a pay cheque from somewhere. He's not an idiot and he knows he's not taking a roster spot from a Laczynski type (who I think will end up as the 4th line center). I'm more concerned that guys like Anisimov, Seeler, etc.... are playing. And what's even scarier is that it isn't the coach that sets the roster - its the idiot GM and his bald pedo looking assistant that do. Remember, it was Vigneault who wanted Frost on the big club because his defense improved immensely and it was the retard that's the GM that sent him to Laperriere in the AHL. I fully expect Tortorella will match to the best of his own drum and if he determines that the young players will play, they'll play. And he'll do it to spite Fletcher. Honestly, what I see happening is going to be a passing match between the coach and the GM and when the coach starts playing more of the youth over the veterans, you're going to see Fletcher farm them out to force Tortorella's hand and you'll see Tortorella call out Fletcher in the media and Dave Scott will be forced to choose a side. It's gonna get messy because the coach and the GM aren't on the same page. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Of course, they are selling you on the coach. What else is there? Our cupboard full of prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, SCFlyguy said: Of course, they are selling you on the coach. What else is there? Our cupboard full of prospects? Flyers 2022: Wait for the Press Conference Can't wait for the t-shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, radoran said: Flyers 2022: Wait for the Press Conference Stay for the Keith Primeau Bobblehead Night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 12 hours ago, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: O'Reilly is only there to land an AHL contract. Exactly. Some will react to everything here. They know who they are. He is only signed so he can help with the lineup because they want o only dress so many kids and so many vets for these preseason games. Plus during the AHL season they have to dress so many vets too i think. Cal is here just for a body more likely and just to help in the AHL if any at all. No worries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IllaZilla Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 39 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: Stay for the Keith Primeau Bobblehead Night Are those the bobbleheads where the head falls off and rolls across the room? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, IllaZilla said: Are those the bobbleheads where the head falls off and rolls across the room? Then the fans gush about how it was one of the best bobbleheads ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 13 hours ago, FireDillabaugh said: I hear what you're saying. Really, I do. But, it doesn't mean it makes any sense at all. Why is a 36 year old "dead horse" being given anything by this organization? If he's only here for a lineup spot in Lehigh, he's still getting in the way of youth at that level, and there's no reason for it. If they need a body that badly in that lineup, it should be to a younger player that actually might have some future in the organization. Whether that future is in the AHL or NHL. Not to a 36 year old that doesn't even deserve an AHL contract and lineup spot. I know who the player is. I've seen him play. And, he never should have even been a consideration for any lineup spot. Uh, you realize that Dave Scott just promoted Fletcher to add President of Hockey Operations and Alternate Governor to his GM title, right? If what you see happening actually comes to fruition, it won't be Fletcher that takes the fall for it. To believe otherwise only shows that you really don't realize what's actually going on within the front office of this organization. And, it's certainly not to coddle a head coach and his circus act over what they consider to be a competent, successful manager. As failed and ridiculous as that consideration is, that's the reality. I get where you're coming from. As for Fletcher, while I get that he has the president title, I can't imagine Comcast wanting to pay another coach $5+ million from a firing. And we all know that this organization has a tendency to turn on their favorites pretty quickly, so I think with Fletcher going into year 5(?) and no visible improvement, you can bet that the senior advisors are sharpening the knives to plunge into his back. When you consider they turned on Hextall for less, they won't tolerate the Schmuck much longer. It's such a vicious cycle with this franchise. Hopefully whoever the next GM is, they demand complete autonomy in all hockey and personnel matters, including senior advisors. That's the only way to clean this mess up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyClarkeFan16 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Well, step one into playing the young players more happened. Antoine Roussel is released from his PTO. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted September 30, 2022 Author Share Posted September 30, 2022 On 9/29/2022 at 5:01 PM, BobbyClarkeFan16 said: Well, step one into playing the young players more happened. Antoine Roussel is released from his PTO. O'Reilly is gone too .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 hours ago, pilldoc said: O'Reilly is gone too .... Wow. Cal didn't even last as long as a freshman TKE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, ruxpin said: Wow. Cal didn't even last as long as a freshman TKE. He was probably gassed after doing the skating suicidal drills…. He never should have been invited to camp…. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 And what's with Anisimov, he got hurt in the first game didn't he? I think I read he hasn't practiced since... But now that Couturier "doesn't need surgery" and his status is "week to week" all is well again. Never mind that the exact same scenario played out last year when Couturier went out of the lineup - this time is different for sure it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, GratefulFlyers said: But now that Couturier "doesn't need surgery" and his status is "week to week" all is well again. Never mind that the exact same scenario played out last year when Couturier went out of the lineup - this time is different for sure it is. Ryan Ellis was week to week, didn't need surgery, then definitely expected to be ready for camp, now may never play again. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) Right. So everything seems to be going according to plan...good deal! edit: come to think of it - I'm sure I'm not the first - I wonder if we'll ever see Couturier skating for the Flyers again. I mean it's not out of the question...back surgery in February, in his own words a "tough rehab" this summer with multiple setbacks...and now another (or the same) back injury. I think it's safe to say the outlook for ol' #14 - from my distant vantage point of course - is not very promising. Edited October 1, 2022 by GratefulFlyers 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerrod Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/1/2022 at 11:19 AM, radoran said: Ryan Ellis was week to week, didn't need surgery, then definitely expected to be ready for camp, now may never play again. Mike Rathje says hello…… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Well can't see why York isn't being kept but more cuts... So does this mean Zamula is sticking around or did i miss him being cut already?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 So unless i got something wrong the defense will be looking like this. Provorov - Deangelo Sanheim - Risto Zamula - Braun Am i right or missing something. Has Hogberg already been cut?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OccamsRazor Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 It looks like if Sandstrom is still banged up Ersson might make the opening night roster to back Hart up. I am good with that kid has looked solid. He will be pushing hard for a spot by 2023-24. Felix better bring it this season or it could be his last in Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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