FD19372 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Someone on defense try picking up Roope Hintz next time, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, FD19372 said: BS interference call on Farabee there. Yeah, it seemed Hintz ran into Farabee while looking at his skates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Also not sure how I got stuck with the Stars only feed on center ice tonight. These guys blow ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Holy crap...a Flyers power play goal! Pop the champagne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, FD19372 said: Holy crap...a Flyers power play goal! Pop the champagne. That will get Therrien a 5 year extension 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 I wouldn't fault Jones. We left him out to dry. Strage to watch after last night. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulFlyers Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) If the Flyers could've kept it a 1-goal game... The Stars have yet to win in regulation they were ripe to fall but special teams let the Flyers down once again. I agree Howie you can't fault Jones he played well. edit: "I was about to blow the whistle" rule is really lame. Missing out on that goal will prob keep MacEwen off the All-Star team now...jeez! Edited November 14, 2021 by GratefulFlyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't there's a lot to blame on the Flyers side. Philly did exactly right by coming off a very strong start in the first to destabilize a mentally fragile Stars team. But that doesn't translated in the scoreboard and Khudobin kept his team afloat. Things have been even out from the second and the go-ahead 3-1 was the dagger for the Flyers who ran out of gas after that. This game was played in the first. And even late, the McEwen goal would have make it 4-3 and it's panic mode on the Stars' side with an outcome that could've been very different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 In addition to being gassed, the Flyers were out of sync. The were alot of errant passes to noone. There were also alot of forced passes through well defended areas, dump in with no far side support, and Voracek wannabes (1on3 in the zone). The addition of Hayes will take time to get things cohesive. JVR and Laughton are predictable and ineffective. And at the risk of sympathetic backlash, Lindblom is invisible. I've come to the conclusion he will never get back to what we thought he would be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, CoachX said: Lindblom is invisible. I've come to the conclusion he will never get back to what we thought he would be well we will never know with him on the 4th line. I thought the plan was to move him up and then I saw him moved down. Nate Thompson isn’t going to create scoring chances for Oskar to finish. Get JVR off the Coots line and give Oskar 5 games minimum to see what happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, CoachX said: And at the risk of sympathetic backlash, Lindblom is invisible. I was thinking the same earlier today. He might need more time but so far, not much. It is worrisome individually and collectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) It may be worthy of a separate thread, but a dozen our so games give us a glimpse of the Metro. I am not surprised by the standings. We've been talking about Brindy and the Hurricanes collecting talent for years. It is blossoming. Washington and Ovechkin are still a force. The Rangers have also been quietly rebuilding. On the downside--Trotz and Lou's over-achievers may have hit a wall. Hexy has a declining Sid and Malkin without much of a supporting gang. We appear to have fixed our D and goaltending, knock on ice, seem OK. But our offense/PP may be lacking. So, we are mediocre in a historically tough division. Our win against Carolina may be a prototype for the season--low-scoring affairs with tight D and above-average goaltending. BTW, as the Comcast crew noted in the lead-in, we were tied with Carolina for the best save percentage--.935. I can't see lasting season long. Our scoring needs to pick up. Edited November 14, 2021 by Howie58 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radoran Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Howie58 said: It may be worthy of a separate thread, but a dozen our so games give us a glimpse of the Metro. It's a glimpse, but pretty early still. And it is no doubt the most difficult division in the league. The Isles are all of four points back of the Flyers with two in hand. The Pens have one game of Crosby this season so far and Malkin has yet to hit the ice. And they're two points behind the Flyers. The surprise for me is the Blue Jackets, but they are playing like a team and that's what makes a team competitive - see Sabres, Buffalo. Flyers are definitely going to need more scoring depth and if ol' Hayeysey doesn't give them that on the second line it could be a difficult season. Lindblom being as some have noted "invisible" isn't helping, either. Still very early in the season and lots of hockey to be played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, radoran said: Still very early in the season and lots of hockey to be played. Rad: Thanks for your thoughtful post. I was unaware of the Malkin-Crosby absence. Also, I heard one of the Assistant GM's of the CBJ (not sure if McRae or Flynn) on NHL Network while driving to work last week. They know the score and as you said, will stress teamwork and resilience during their rebuild. Meanwhile, Kekailinen seems to find great Finnish goalies. BTW, their management staff, with Davidson at the helm, is a sharp group. I worry about our scoring. I just don't see a terrific first line. I love Coots but wish he was 2 and Hayes was three, with a newbie centering Farabee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 8:13 AM, Samifan said: well we will never know with him on the 4th line. I thought the plan was to move him up and then I saw him moved down. Nate Thompson isn’t going to create scoring chances for Oskar to finish. Get JVR off the Coots line and give Oskar 5 games minimum to see what happens. Ok, say they give him 5 games. What production would you say is enough to indicate he is worthy of being a top line guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digityman Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I agree, JVR can't be on the top line. If they are going to play Giroux at wing (which I strongly support), JVR stays on the 3rd line. He's a PP specialist until he can prove otherwise. My guess is that once Frost proves himself, he'll center the 3rd line. His vision might help JVR. It's 3 steps down the line but I'm still hoping by the holiday break that's what will happen. Giroux - Couturier - Atkinson Farabee - Hayes - Konecny Lindblom - Frost - JVR Brassard - Laughton - McEwen This is actually 4 decent lines. You can move up Atkinson/Konecny & Farabee/Lindblom as warranted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 8:55 AM, CoachX said: And at the risk of sympathetic backlash, Lindblom is invisible. It is true though. The team needs him to be better, or at least more productive. He has been on a line that hasn't been able to cash in but has played alright. JvR, Laughton and him have been alright with the play driving, but since they're not finishing it feels like dudes taking their sticks for a skate. It is not like your observation is soley malicious or unwarranted. He needs to find his scoring touch soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucson83 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 this is what im predicting if the flyers dont make the playoffs, i do see alot of vet wingers getting moved including cam i think he has alot of value to get some good prospects back, im not sure they are going to move giroux or he's going to walk in fa or retire. i dont see him coming back, he's not the same player, i think they are going to move tk and a dman maybe sanheim for a center for maybe larkin and hertl depending on who's out there because of the health of hayes. to replace sanheim i think they are going to trade for another star d man. i dont think they are going to rush york in the top 4, i think he will start out in in third pairing and depending if braun wants to stay here or retire. he will play with braun. as far as coaches it really depends on who's out there if mike sullivan gets canned from pittsburgh, i see them canned av and bringing him in. he's a complete upgrade from av. there's going to be alot of changes if they dont make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, tucson83 said: this is what im predicting if the flyers dont make the playoffs, i do see alot of vet wingers getting moved including cam i think he has alot of value to get some good prospects back, im not sure they are going to move giroux or he's going to walk in fa or retire. i dont see him coming back, he's not the same player, i think they are going to move tk and a dman maybe sanheim for a center for maybe larkin and hertl depending on who's out there because of the health of hayes. to replace sanheim i think they are going to trade for another star d man. i dont think they are going to rush york in the top 4, i think he will start out in in third pairing and depending if braun wants to stay here or retire. he will play with braun. as far as coaches it really depends on who's out there if mike sullivan gets canned from pittsburgh, i see them canned av and bringing him in. he's a complete upgrade from av. there's going to be alot of changes if they dont make the playoffs. I think its too early for this kind of speculation 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucson83 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, CoachX said: I think its too early for this kind of speculation that's why im saying if. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, CoachX said: Ok, say they give him 5 games. What production would you say is enough to indicate he is worthy of being a top line guy? In a 5 game sample, 3 points and lots of scoring opportunities even if he doesn’t finish them. Also giving 100% each shift and being in proper position in D zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo1917 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I wonder if this team is freaked out by speed. It appears the forwards often disengage in puck battles in the offensive zone so they can be in position to clog the neutral zone. They lose seem to lose a lot of puck battles, and for a group of people who have "high compete levels" there is something that is not matching that description to what I'm seeing. Is everyone too concerned with "being on the right side of the puck" to actually go all in to keep the puck in the attacking 3rd? Is this reaction to last year's worst in history goaltending? Is it just me that sees/thinks this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Samifan said: In a 5 game sample, 3 points and lots of scoring opportunities even if he doesn’t finish them. Also giving 100% each shift and being in proper position in D zone. why not just move him to the second line? I understand your point, but I still don't agree you break up a line just to get one guy going. If he is that talented, he should be able to take advantage of going up against third and fourth line players. All the arguments for moving him up, seem to be based on the premise that he will do better because he is with more talented people. i would think that applies to anyone in the line up. While we're at it, let's move JVR up. He's a $7 million dollar a year player with two, 30 goal, seasons to his credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 @CoachX they moved JVR Up to first line against Dallas and he got credit for that garbage goal but they all count so good on him. Didn’t Lindblom have success with Hayes and Konecny before he became ill? Oskar needs to be with the top 6 forward groups to have any hopes of success unless they call frost up to center 3rd line. Not going to get many looks playing with murder face or Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Samifan said: @CoachX they moved JVR Up to first line against Dallas and he got credit for that garbage goal but they all count so good on him. Didn’t Lindblom have success with Hayes and Konecny before he became ill? Oskar needs to be with the top 6 forward groups to have any hopes of success unless they call frost up to center 3rd line. Not going to get many looks playing with murder face or Thompson UPDATE: AV just said Lindblom will be healthy scratch Tuesday vs Calgary. Called it a reset. Edited November 16, 2021 by Samifan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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