pilldoc Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Hockey Junkie said: He does a ton of great things out there. Name them ..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samifan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, pilldoc said: yes and a St. Louis Blues fan and any team that Ryan Miller plays for ...... That’s it, you win the day Doc!!! Miller 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 2 hours ago, pilldoc said: Did you read my post at all? Top row = player impact for offense. RED = GOOD / BLUE = BAD For Risto I see more Blue than Red. Bottom row = player impact on defense. BLUE = GOOD / RED = BAD For Risto I see more RED than Blue. You can disagree all you want ......BUT the Statistics state otherwise ..... I really cannot make that any more simpler.... I totally agree with @ruxpin ... be happy your GM fleeced the hell out of our GM. Don't try to pretend to tell Flyer fans that with the Flyers acquiring Risto that we are going to be world beaters and we should be ecstatic about it. Fact is, RIsto is a defensive liability. Period. End of Story. Just sit back and enjoy the 1st round draft pick (#14 overall) your GM fleeced from us....... This may be a tad complex. Maybe a Sesame Street approach?? One of these things is not like the other?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Howie58 said: I hope Chuck has something up his sleeve for Voracek. First line RW if I recall correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 This is why I can't even invest emotions in this team anymore... They are inherently out of clue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: First line RW if I recall correctly. I think you are correct. Edited July 24, 2021 by FD19372 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 6 hours ago, Howie58 said: I hope Chuck has something up his sleeve for Voracek The only thing Chuck has up his sleeve, is gray, and it looks like hair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilldoc Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, jammer2 said: This may be a tad complex. Maybe a Sesame Street approach?? One of these things is not like the other?? Come on Jammer it is simple…. My kids learned their colors at and early age 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 There's still players and picks left that he can give away for nothing or schitty players in return! I need about 43 beers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: This is why I can't even invest emotions in this team anymore... They are inherently out of clue. I am just physically and emotionally spent!! Staring years of mediocrity directly in the face. We are truly gluttons for punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FD19372 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Just now, jammer2 said: I am just physically and emotionally spent!! Staring years of mediocrity directly in the face. We are truly gluttons for punishment. Buy nothing Comcast, and nothing Flyers, or Flyer related...and go from there. Let them move to Salt Lake City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, FD19372 said: Buy nothing Comcast, and nothing Flyers, or Flyer related...and go from there. Let them move to Salt Lake City. They will not get a penny from me for a looooong time...but I love Philly, love the Flyers, no Salt Lake City hopes, no matter how disgusted I am. They are kinda tattooed on my left arm...lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 3 hours ago, pilldoc said: .maybe I will find a good Junior Hockey team to watch until the stench from this team is gone ..... I dunno. I've seriously considered finding an NCAA team to cheer for. This past year I watched a bit of Michigan, for example. The Flyers are sucking the life out of me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie58 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I watched the YouTube replay of CF's presser. They have had their eye on him Risto for three years. They believe operating under five coaches has been a problem. This is a contract year--telling me they will not extend without body of work. These don't make me feel any better about the deal. But the organization must like this dude for reasons unclear to me and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynxrattle Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Way back when Fletcher was our GM he always did these boring Sabres - Wild trades, that nearly always had no positive effect on our team (getting Foligno the one exception). This one is a head scratcher. A really risky thing to do. He couldn't get Jones, so he decided anything goes? It's an interesting one, though. I'll be looking at Philly and Ristolainen next season. I've always wondered where that stud junior prospect went and where did this defensive no-clue liability come from? We'll see next season. They'll dump him if he is what we saw while he played in BUF, but a 1st, 2nd and decent d-man for this kind of gamble... Fletcher getting desperate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskaFlyerFan Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Howie58 said: I watched the YouTube replay of CF's presser. They have had their eye on him Risto for three years. They believe operating under five coaches has been a problem. This is a contract year--telling me they will not extend without body of work. These don't make me feel any better about the deal. But the organization must like this dude for reasons unclear to me and others. LOL. So, way over pay for a mediocre (at best) defenseman and let him play under a sixth coach. Makes perfect sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCFlyguy Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Thinking more about this trade and Fletch's other moves, they strike me more and more like Paul Holmgren moves: decide ahead of time what the move will be, then do whatever you have to do, pay whatever price is asked, to make that move happen. Extra 2nds, bad contracts, move picks for cap space to make more moves - I've seen this before. I expect this team to be marginally better than last year at least to start the year. Everyone played terrible last year and they are bound to be better at least just because of regression to the mean. But this team and this management will not get out of the first round, let alone the second round, ever. The next thing that gives me concern is the Ristolainen extension that is coming. It is coming because of the price they paid to get him and the organization's desperate, pathological need, to show how much smarter they are than everyone else. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer2 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, SCFlyguy said: Thinking more about this trade and Fletch's other moves, they strike me more and more like Paul Holmgren moves: decide ahead of time what the move will be, then do whatever you have to do, pay whatever price is asked, to make that move happen. Extra 2nds, bad contracts, move picks for cap space to make more moves - I've seen this before. I expect this team to be marginally better than last year at least to start the year. Everyone played terrible last year and they are bound to be better at least just because of regression to the mean. But this team and this management will not get out of the first round, let alone the second round, ever. The next thing that gives me concern is the Ristolainen extension that is coming. It is coming because of the price they paid to get him and the organization's desperate, pathological need, to show how much smarter they are than everyone else. I dunno if the Flyers leaked the rumor that 7 teams in total offered 1st round picks for Risto or not. Perhaps a false leak to save face in the wake of serious negative responses to this deal? Regardless, the responsible move would be to bow out and let the other 6 teams fight it out. Like you said, seems like he locked on the target and was hell bent on winning his services. There is always other options. Sign a UFA to a 1 or 2 year deal biding time for kids to break through. What a horses ass Fletch is!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxpin Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Howie58 said: But the organization must like this dude for reasons unclear to me and others. Drugs. Lots of drugs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poconono Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 The fact that Buffalo fans are laughing at the Flyers is all I need to know. They've been trying to dump RR for four years according to what I heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poconono Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 14 hours ago, FD19372 said: I'd rather they sell the team, at this point. In a thread with dozens of great posts yours takes the top prize. The only way we'll see another Stanley Cup in Philly is if/when this team is sold or moves out of town and a new franchise is awarded (my preferred scenario). I think you and I can look forward to seeing a Colorado Cup in the near future however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Colorado and Vegas are reasonable options for a former Flyer fan forced to live in Albuquerque 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poconono Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Kind of hard to root for Vegas the way the NHL execs have coddled them from Day One. But right now I'd say they are the odds on choice to win it all in '22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachX Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Poconono said: Kind of hard to root for Vegas the way the NHL execs have coddled them from Day One. I can ignore this. give me a break. im in mourning over the death of the Flyers and reaching for anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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